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NordicMindset
November 11th 2017


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

like I've said in the past with several other artists, I don't care. My opinion has not changed. Whatever misconduct artists commit changes nothing about how I feel about their music.

it's possible Jesse engaged in shitty behavior. doesn't impact the quality of the music and it also does not undermine Vinnie, Garrett and Brian's hard work they put into it as well. separate the art from the artist, people. Even if Jesse did it, this should affect your enjoyment of the band absolutely zero. Affect your opinion of Jesse the person, fine, obviously. But not the music.

JesperL
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


5841 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

while I do agree with separating art from the artists, if the allegations turn out to be true my listening experience from that point on will be different because it's the band of a sexual abuser.

and besides that, I wouldn't want to spend any money on that band in terms of concert tix/buying records.

onionbubs
November 11th 2017


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

this is why i was dreading this site coming back [3]



but yea i don’t really give a shit

Project
November 11th 2017


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

my thing is



the "separate art from artist" argument feels dangerously close to "you can be a scumbag as long as you're talented" and that kinda enables more dangerous stuff



i want to be all "innocent until proven guilty" but honestly there are far more cases of "outlandish stories of sexual harassment were true" than false (weinstein, spacey, louis CK to name a few very recent examples...)



and honestly Sowing I feel like you would have had an entirely different response if it wasn't Brand New's frontman but some band you didn't care about...

NordicMindset
November 11th 2017


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

even if it's true, I'll still probably go to the last show (if there is one) and buy SciFi on vinyl (which I haven't yet). I feel no qualms about doing it.

dbizzles
November 11th 2017


15413 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I got my vinyl copy yesterday. Was planning to jam it this weekend and now I kind of don't want to.

GreyShadow
November 11th 2017


8139 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

oh god

I mean I'm not going to not love this band or have any different opinion on the quality of the music but ugh something just won't sit right with me when they are being played.

but still, it's just an accusation for now that was conveniently brought up during the band's last hoorah seeing as they probably will be done in 2018.



wwf
November 11th 2017


7198 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

ugh now this is a whole thing

taxidermist
November 11th 2017


7267 Comments


Damn fuck these guys rn

Muppelope
November 11th 2017


2097 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That's not fair at all. Even if it's true, it's more "fuck Jesse Lacey rn" Don't condemn the whole band.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

I'm hoping he's innocent but I'm not gonna be biased on his side just cause he's the frontman and songwriter for a band I love. It's crazy how so many of these accusations end up being true, and famous people need to be held accountable for the shitty things they do.

That being said, there are people out there who make false accusations and try to destroy an innocent person's reputation or even their livelihood, which is also terrible, and it's usually just not clear what the truth is and the public just need to accept that and deal with it however they need to.

The whole Swans thing comes to my mind. I still enjoy Swans and I'm still going to listen to Brand New, but once in a while the possibility that the frontman did scummy things like this will enter my mind and make me think a bit.

But for the most part, I can do the whole separate the art from the artist thing and appreciate the music for what it is, art made by a group of people that resonates with me on a deep level. That special part won't change, but unfortunately many creative people are of course just as potentially capable of doing shitty things as everyone else.

taxidermist
November 11th 2017


7267 Comments


Yeah you’re right. Fuck jesse rn.

Deathconscious
November 11th 2017


27920 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Nah

wwf
November 11th 2017


7198 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

honestly it's not like Jesse's every said he was some sort of good person, regardless if it's true or not

Muppelope
November 11th 2017


2097 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

What Talons said [2]

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

"I'm hoping he's innocent but I'm not gonna be biased on his side just cause he's the frontman and songwriter for a band I love."

[3]

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

"honestly it's not like Jesse's every said he was some sort of good person, regardless if it's true or not"

Oh, right, so it's cool then

wwf
November 11th 2017


7198 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

oh no that's not what I was trying to say lmao



it's just that it's sort of like with all of Louis CK's work basically screaming 'I'm occasionally a sexual pervert and I don't know if I can help it'



all of Lacey's work is basically summed up by 'I'm an actual garbage person and I'm probably going to hell'

GreyShadow
November 11th 2017


8139 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Again we really know nothing that is concrete but I feel like accusing the lead singer of a huge band is such an easy thing to pull off for attention/money. Not defending or attacking just some thoughts/possibilities.

if its true than really, fuck him, but if not then fuck her so this could really go either way...

luci
November 11th 2017


12844 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

hey sowing fuck you you misogynist fuckboy piece of shit [2]



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