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Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

lol no i didn't call you stupid. objectively people think it's great and that's fine, but you can't deny that with certain artists they have such a large standing that even when they do release shitty or mediocre albums people desperately try to find reasons as to why it's breaking ground or what have you, and i wholeheartedly believe that a lot of people likely approached their new record the same. i've done it with artists in the past. shit, i did it with th at first. i tried to tell myself it was awesome and i just needed more time for it to settle. if you think it's great then that's fine, i won't tell you you're wrong.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 13th 2014


70256 Comments


objectively people think it's great and that's fine, but you can't deny that with certain artists they have such a large standing that even when they do release shitty or mediocre albums people desperately try to find reasons as to why it's breaking ground or what have you, and i wholeheartedly believe that a lot of people likely approached their new record the same.


yeah people do that but i can only speak for myself and i really don't tbh. also what you are saying is kind of the polarity to what you are talking about which is just as bad in some senses if you know what I'm sayin'.. best to develop a more thought out middle ground opinion than to play the devils advocate lest you succumb to the sputnik "sput band releases new album... is it 0/5? or is it 6/5??" syndrome. I dunno if that will make any sense to you but all i'm sayin is that even if u really don't like it, it sounds like your strongest reasons for disliking it are deeply rooted in other peoples feelings for it which intensify your arguments/opinions on it and simultaneously weaken them

much like any subject the truth often lies somewhere in the grey area, not within either extreme

ok ill shuddup now

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
March 13th 2014


29727 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

but i dont really see the hyperbolic ammounts of acclaim that tomorrows harvest apparently has



almost everything i read about it had the same basic sentiments as you did just not quite as extreme. i honestly think TH has been underrated by everyone because they expected to like it as much as they like their first two knowing quite well that it took them months to decide either MHTRTC and Geo were amazing.



ill just never understand why people dont want to put effort into listening to music, they just want it to be passive enjoyment, but good music is more like reading a book than watching a football game. (not calling you out, just making a general statement).

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

tornado: i agree. it sounds like a companion piece to a really depressingly boring movie or something. it's more of an ost than an album. i mean you said it yourself - it sounds like a single driving entity (homogeneous), whereas their others retain that singular identity insofar as atmosphere but sound incredibly varied.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 13th 2014


70256 Comments


great users itt right now

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 13th 2014


70256 Comments


it sounds like a companion piece to a really depressingly boring movie or something. it's more of an ost than an album. i mean you said it yourself - it sounds like a single driving entity (homogeneous)


i would in no way whatsoever equate what tornado just said to equalling homogenous, that was a bit of a twist and spin gy

MisterTornado
March 13th 2014


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"when they do release shitty or mediocre albums people desperately try to find reasons as to why it's breaking ground or what have you, and i wholeheartedly believe that a lot of people likely approached their new record the same."

But just because you tried to falsify your feelings for the album Gyro doesn't justify your argument that others do it too. They've found something within the album that connects with them, and to dismiss that feeling of their's out of your own lack of identity within the album is kinda shallow

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
March 13th 2014


29727 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

lol thats exactly what's so amazing about TH, its cinematic and impressionistic in ways that theyre music has never really quite been before. it's not so much a step back as it is a walk in a different direction.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

potsy: i get what you're saying, and i feel like maybe i miscommunicated something along the way. i'm writing a review atm and i'm not going to be overly scathing in it or anything, though i feel like i need to focus more on detractors as a lot of the reviews it has are overwhelmingly positive and i want to focus on why i think it's not. i'm not so much playing devil's advocate because it is around a 2.5 for me.



hype: yah that's all fair. i get what you're saying regarding how people approach listening to music, but you should know i put in a very valid effort to like it. i've played the album 7 times now, which i think is more than enough in assessing how well i like it. to me it just never sounds or feels as laboured over or engaging as their other stuff.



hope i didn't offend you guys, just stating my opinion on the matter.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

potsy: sorry, should have specified. i agreed with what he said regarding singularity etc



But just because you tried to falsify your feelings for the album Gyro doesn't justify your argument that others do it too.



you can't tell me you've never done this to some degree. and if you say you haven't, well, i won't believe you lol

Keyblade
March 13th 2014


30810 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

TH has the most engaging, extensive atmosphere theyve ever created.


The heavy sense of atmosphere with Tommorow's Harvest comes with its cohesion. It sounds like a single driving entity throughout, like an incidental soundtrack of desolate and decayed places, whereas previous Boards of Canada albums (with the exception of a few interludes connecting pieces) sound like a collection of different sketches playing within an overreaching sonic identity.



good music is more like reading a book than watching a football game




So much truth itt

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
March 13th 2014


29727 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i can definitely understand not liking it that's fine, but i think the reason were still debating this is because all of your criticism is purely subjective to the degree that it almost has no relevance to another listener. when you're argument boils down to "it doesnt gel with me" (a perfectly valid perspective btw) i just find that arguing your opinion becomes pointless. there are plenty of albums people love that i just dont get, but i dont really have any criticism of either, and at that point id just rather let people enjoy what they enjoy without my input.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

it's definitely good that you guys love it, i mean certainly you've taken away much more than me from the album, but i think some of my criticisms should at least make sense to others who also consider it kind of monotonous. i said i think it's weird how their other albums too have that singularity to them but still sound incredibly varied as opposed to th. gah, idk if i'm going to review it now lol. i don't want to get flamed too hard, especially if you feel like my criticisms in this thread are unwarranted

MisterTornado
March 13th 2014


4507 Comments


"ill just never understand why people dont want to put effort into listening to music, they just want it to be passive enjoyment, but good music is more like reading a book than watching a football game"

I think most people (even those who review music) operate under the stance that music should work for them, rather than they put themselves in the music. They're under the impression that if a particular song or album doesn't click right away then it's not for them. It's why people continue listening to the same bands and same types of music for years on end. There's no growth because they're opinion is so linear and clouded within their own perceptions, that when anything tries to change or question that its simply discarded and left open to continue assimilating the same constant ideas.

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
March 13th 2014


29727 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

especially if you feel like my criticisms in this thread are unwarranted




oh its not that i think your criticisms are unwarranted, and a review should never be written with the audience in mind (that's bad criticism), its just the way you went about seemed to carry an adversarial attitude that wasnt necessarily based around the music, but rather the reaction to the music (which i still dont really agree with either).



it's not that your criticism in invalid by any means, its just that it wasnt initially presented with the clarity that we all understand it as now, which is the only real reason were having this convo lol.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 13th 2014


70256 Comments


no worries gyro, will read review hard

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

if it doesn't click with someone right away it doesn't mean they should devote hours upon hours to see

if something changes. music that's immediately accessible doesn't necessarily translate to lacking

depth, and so this "good music is more like reading a book than watching a football game" is patently

false. good music is both



Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 13th 2014


70256 Comments


^agreed about that

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
March 13th 2014


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i don't think it's the only reason we're having this conversation. we're simply discussing. i probably shouldn't approach it as confrontationally but i hold to my criticisms. never have i wanted to love an album more =/

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 13th 2014


70256 Comments


yeah that was basically my only argument, it seems like sometimes when you get overly confrontational you're arguments and criticisms suffer for it but whenever we have conversations like this and we move past that point and you start considering other perspectives a bit more your arguments become abundantly more concise and effective, so yeah I'd just like to see you consider the points we've all brought up in this thread before you review TH, the review will benefit from it

reminds me of our conversation about shaking the habitual a long while ago, you were super adversarial about that at first but once we got talking you adopted a more open stance and your arguments started becoming a lot stronger i felt!



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