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parksungjoon
May 22nd 2016


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

u too snide

Snide
May 22nd 2016


7049 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Checkin' now

BenThatsMyJamin
May 22nd 2016


4020 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I checked the first couple of songs, seems more depressing than angry if anything, especially that intro holy fuck. But good shit, will definitely check full album when I've got time

Snide
May 22nd 2016


7049 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Why is it that drums from extreme metal before the year 2005 blow everything out of the water.

BenThatsMyJamin
May 22nd 2016


4020 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Converge's Jane Doe I honestly didn't appreciate as much until my ex and I split. In my 23 years of life, I've never been as hurt as in that moment (might say something about my priorities but whatever, I'm a hopeless romantic)"



Hmm an album doesn't really appeal to me if it's main selling point is how 'relatable' it is or anything, almost makes emotion seem like a gimmick. I mean this album first and foremost is a songwriting masterclass but the anger is an added bonus when you need to let off steam

parksungjoon
May 22nd 2016


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

how about infest - no man's slave

parksungjoon
May 22nd 2016


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ben you could try getting into other old metalcore / mathcore first and maybe it'll grow on you later that way



check botch

Snide
May 22nd 2016


7049 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Converge's Jane Doe has pretty technical songs and some slamming riffs, but it's the combination of everything that makes it what it is, the production that enhances every gritty riff, the cowbell, the distortion of the vocals; it's why it's more enjoyable and one of the few albums that can be truly enjoyed the most when something like that happens. It's a concept album about a dissolving relationship, and it was meant to be enjoyed the most during moments like that.

parksungjoon
May 22nd 2016


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i'm just saying it might not be a bad idea to start with something that is more immediately enjoyable from a musical / compositional standpoint.



BenThatsMyJamin
May 22nd 2016


4020 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Nah I'm really not a fan of metalcore at all, and no that's not me trying to be edgy, I just hate the general sound. I quite like the original stuff like Unbroken (they rule hard) which was more like heavy hardcore punk, but it seems to have evolved into something almost completely removed from that hardcore attitude

parksungjoon
May 22nd 2016


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

unbroken's not that far off from the bands i was referring to though



did you try botch?

Snide
May 22nd 2016


7049 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Botch is pretty awesome.

BenThatsMyJamin
May 22nd 2016


4020 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'll jam Botch soon, put on my wishlist

parksungjoon
May 22nd 2016


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

90s and early 00s metalcore is very, very different from stuff like killswitch, as i lay dying, all that remains etc. there's no radio pop cleans, no boring simple chug chug riffs (or at least they never overstay their welcome), no at the gates worship and songs tend to have a more chaotic and unpredictable structure (what a surprise, a hardcore offshoot being chaotic? well i never)



if you like unbroken, expect a lot of that, but a little more technical and occasionally more dissonant. good bands that aren't converge, in no particular order:



botch, coalesce, zao, 7 angels 7 plagues, integrity, rorschach (probably the oldest metalcore), shai hulud



NLD
May 22nd 2016


589 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

yeah shai hulud fucking rule

Maco097
July 5th 2016


3386 Comments


Townsend never did something as good as this again. Too bad the crazy and genius Devin is dead and instead we got this boring artist that he is nowadays.

InFlamesWeThrash666
July 5th 2016


10623 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

edgy

Maco097
July 5th 2016


3386 Comments


Great way to describe this album. Unlike Devin's late stuff.

LotusFlower
July 5th 2016


12000 Comments


i think that was directed towards you

LotusFlower
July 5th 2016


12000 Comments


also casualties of cool is 10/10 so...



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