I really don't know if we can consider Black Sabbath a metal band. In fact, for many and as you know, the real metal only born in the 90's with bands like Queensryche, Fates Warning and Dream Theater. Probably we can put Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Rush, for instance, as the precursors of the metal genre. As you know, even bands like King Crimson and Yes were very important to the metal genre due to their albums "Red" and "Relayer".
So, I prefer to consider them as a hard and heavy rock band. Probably this is only a theoretical thing, but I thought that it can be important to discuss, if you want.
Cheers.
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heavy metal in terms of 70s and 80s stuff isn't really metal for me... it's not heavy at all
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nah they're metal. basically any doom metal from the 80s was heavily inspired by Iommi's playing... torts is wrong also lol
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To be inspired don't necessarily means that it's heavy metal stuff.
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Sabbath are definitely metal in my eyes
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the only stuff that's metal is some stuff on sabotage
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pioneered sludge. simple as that
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Yeah, as I said before, "Red" and "Relayer" have heavy stuff. "Red" is also one of the heaviest albums I've heard. However, there is nothing of metal on it. Heavy isn't a synonym of metal.
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"heavy metal in terms of 70s and 80s stuff isn't really metal for me... it's not heavy at all"
I think you typed 80's accidently. Needless to say some of the heaviest and most primitive metal there is was from the 80's.
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"lmao you must listen to some pretty shit metal if you think this is superior in any way other than that it came first"
Nah I don't think that's the reason lol. There is a lot of shit metal out there though I'll give you that, more than there is good.
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this is like the first place ive ever seen sabbath not called metal so im going to go with smaugman being wrong as usual
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Well just look what he said about 80's metal...
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depends on your def. of metal, if it is fast music then no, but if you listen to Bill ward about how the Early english found the metal sound, it is that they all lived mostly in Birmingham, or around and had this factory sound of metal on metal banging all night and day, that is were they got the Heavy metal sound, not fast riffs
Torts please tell me who sabbath is inferior too, other words who do you dig, just to validate your point
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"Well just look what he said about 80's metal..."
lol
so i guess then thrash metal isnt metal either
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" the real metal only born in the 90's with bands like Queensryche, Fates Warning and Dream Theater"
.......?
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my definition of metal is opeth or die
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metal is whatever you think it is apparently, I would not call purple, gnr, kiss, def leppard, any hair metal, metal, but some people do, so whatever
metal in my book is either heavy tones with dark lyrics, the nwobhm, or thrash
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WASP is metal yo
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ya maybe, more than other bands of the same era
anybody for Krokus
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