Massive smh.

Album Rating: 4.5

Nights of Arabia was the first song to have that ambitious feeling of grandeur, you know, the complex arrangements, the exotic instruments, the intro track, the guest vocals ... it's like a six minute concept album, a mini Epica if you will ... but I'm also not the biggest fan of that chorus, it's just a bit too much on the cheesy side.



Better than Shadow of Uther though, that's my least favorite Khan era Kamelot song.

Album Rating: 4.5

Dude, Forever or Karma or gtfo

kj is truth

Album Rating: 4.5

Center of the Universe is better than both tbh

Album Rating: 4.5

@Rik, are you like the resident Kamelot expert or something? You seem to KNOW Kamelot.

Id say we are the kamelot kouncil

Album Rating: 4.5

Haha, thanks Kj, I'm fond of that thought of being kind of a Kamelot expert, but I guess I'm just someone who had Kamelot as his all time favorite band for 7 years straight lol. I could write books about their discography though, I'm pretty sure about that.

Seriously what the fuck why doesn't anyone like that chorus? The awesome high note at 53 seconds, the grandness, how it wraps up so nicely so the transition to the next verse works as a backdrop from the raising tension and huge release the song built...everything works.

Album Rating: 4.5

Kamelot Kouncil- I dig it.



@Rik, yeah dude awesome stuff, I went through like a 2-3 year period of LOTS of Kamelot too. Everyone seems to know me as the resident expert for Evergrey around here though lol.

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't hate it and I think Khan's performance is great, but it's the background choir, the damn background choir is just one level too much haha. Nice description of it though, I feel you. The verses leading to it are awesome.

Album Rating: 4.5

Idk man- It's always just annoyed me for some reason. Can't give a more articulate explanation.

"But it's the background choir, the damn background choir is just one level too much haha."

4.5 superb
Blind Guardian A Night at the Opera

Album Rating: 4.5

Nah, I'm not joining in when whataboutism is a weapon of choice haha. But Blind Guardian made cheesy background choirs into an art form, it's not comparable!

Album Rating: 4.5

Also in defense of myself just misspelling Karma lyrics, on page 1 of this very review from 2012 ironically enough I have "rite" correctly m/

"But Blind Guardian made cheesy background choirs into an art form, it's not comparable!"

If I'm correct the thing has like 12 vocal tracks in unison and is far more bombastic than anything that Kamelot has done so you can see the hypocrisy here.

Album Rating: 4.5

Dude, I never said anything about background choirs being bad in general, let alone about them getting worse the more vocal tracks there are at the same time. It's nothing to do with "hypocrisy" when one band did it far better than the other one, sorry.

I never said you claimed any of those things. You called that chorus with less vocal tracks and grandeur as 'too much', i.e. too over the top yet another band who has that amplified gets a free pass. You can like one and not the other but the reasoning is poor is what I'm saying.

Album Rating: 4.5

Well, let me specify that the choir (apart from not sounding as well-rounded and full as it does in Blind Guardian's more bombastic stuff) annoys me a bit mostly because it always sings the same notes and words four times in a row, that makes it seem rather funny than epic to me because it's just "too much" in terms of "too cheesy" and not good enough to justify it. While Blind Guardian have been more epic than Kamelot in all kinds of places, they seldom take it overboard to an extent that I find it annoying in any way, which is why I don't feel it's "too much" in the sense of "too cheesy", because they find a way (by doing it better imo) to make it no problem at all that they are that overblown. Sometimes one thing is "too much" and the other thing is "more" but still not "too much" because it's just done better. That's not poor reasoning as far as I can tell, it's just a rather complicated situation.



And even if it was, even poor reasoning and hypocrisy are two different things.



(I should add as a side-note, even though I already mentioned it, that I really like the song and that I don't even hate the chorus or anything like that.)

That fleshed out reasoning is much better I'll take it.