hmmmmm i just love listening to the lyrics and voice of a baby rapist - caliggyjack 2022

can one spend money in prison in the uk ?

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah it’s best to just never listen to this, my review is basically just for reminiscing about a time before all the craziness happened

Lol a lost profits review in 2022

Album Rating: 3.0

@Mott not what I said or was implying. But your Not interested in nuance.

Yeah idk it's just a good album, people wrapped up in politics tho. Ian Watkins should seriously burn in hell tbf. One of the sickest pieces of shit ever

Album Rating: 3.0

More morality than politics.



I just just don't see the point for attacking others for whether they choose to listen to them or not.

how do they have 80K listeners on spotify when their profile doesn't come up in the app and there aren't any songs playable in the USA even then? :|

I guess I meant the politics of whether or not it's morally acceptable to listen to something made by a monster but yeah morality is prob the better term here. People like to forget that this is a whole band, not just one psychotic pos. I feel awful for the other bandmates and the music is just great. The lyrics don't allude to any of his sick depraved behaviors either so it makes it easier for me to disconnect when listening to it.

i mean i also don't blame people who can't listen to this because they can't stand the thought of the dude either

me neither

Album Rating: 4.0

It’s difficult to listen to 😢

All their albums had great stuff, unfortunately.

Album Rating: 3.5

It's hard. Took me well over a decade to be able to put it on. The song "Last Train Home" was very influential when I was younger, so it was hard to take the news that the guy who sang it was level 0 trash.



Funny enough...it was Brand New that made me realize that I could listen to the music that was being made without thinking of the motherfucker who made it. While I saw how much that whole thing affected so many people, my only thought was "I never held him to any sort of standard as a human, I just enjoyed the music of the band." That, in turn, allowed me to try Lostprophets again. I got to a point where I could listen to the band's music AND hope that Ian spends eternity getting shat upon by Satan. But man, it took a looooooong time to get there, and I honestly still feel weird about it. I don't blame anyone for just not wanting to.

I'm listening to Last Train Home right now. Watkins makes it hard to seperate the music from what he is. The vocals make up so much of Lost Prophets sound and the lyrics were touching and good and that makes it harder. How is this the same person? But it is and yeah it is weird...

why'd he do it!?

One of the main people who investigated him to get all the charges called Watkins "the most dangerous sex offender he had ever seen". Hopefully he never gets out but he will be eligible for parole in around 10 years around mid 50s.

"so seeming as lostprophets as a business/act had nothing to do with his crimes, he will continue to receive royalties and will be able to access them once out of prison"

He likely has a ton of civil suits by his victims awaiting him once they come of age. The UK has no statute of limitations for sexual assault (nice) so maybe they'll get a nice chunk of those royalties.

Fun fact: The penalty for child rape in Vietnam is execution by firing squad. Gary Glitter was very nearly executed that way apparently.

That one big Joel video essay about Jake Paul kind of pops in my head a lot with art/artist discourse, the idea that it's impossible to truly know someone or even really know about them purely through the things they create, that realizating this is a traumatic psychic violence to some people...much to consider