Album Rating: 4.5
Lorelei and Pandora being pointed out as weak points is shocking tbh those are some of their best songs
Also is Pandora really that repeatitive? IDK I'm always too captivated by how beautiful it is to notice
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
Weak minds hear repetitive, strong ones hear trance-like
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Album Rating: 4.5
TBH the grittier production on both Head Over the Heels and Treasure give them a huge edge over their cleaner later stuff even if its all good
something something ethereal wave roughness something
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Album Rating: 4.5
I'd there's like 3 different vocal sections
Several mood changes (intense vocal sections, chill instrumental sections)
It does feel like a cyclical round that could go on for an hour if needed, but idk I thought that was the appeal?
Dream-like icy artsy fartsy loops
5/5
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Album Rating: 4.0
too lazy to even write lyrics
This is already the laziest critique of the year
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Album Rating: 4.0
For real. Having had the displeasure of reading the last page imma say the only lazy thing here is Clton's babyish belief in a universally applicable songwriting template. Maybe go trace that stencil over another band's work hm?
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
I’m mostly kidding above, I do believe repetitiveness can be a lazy criticism but it isn’t inherently so and your opinion of the song is valid, if it doesn’t work for you it doesn’t work and that’s fine!
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Album Rating: 4.5
One of your worst takes about the repetition Colton. 100% disagree.
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Album Rating: 4.0
*sigh* ain't no way like the easy way:
you're grasping at straws with the universally applicable songwriting template thing. there is obviously no template, it just feels a bit lazy to me to have a song that just loops 3 times and then ends with no change or progression at all. it doesn't justify its length. I gain nothing from hearing it one last time after having already heard it twice
it's actually kind of ironic that you're taking issue with this since you're the one that parlayed your own arbitrary ideas of what constitutes a valid transition from one section of a song to the next into a sweeping declaration of what is and is not in fact a song on recent threads. you were supposed to have my back on this one
Contradicted by the representation of any non-verse/chorus (or comparable) records within your ratings
Misplaced superimposition of songwriting patterns catered to lighter attention spans, probs informed by this
Unidiomatic and/or inaccurate word choice
Irrelevant to this discussion
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Victorialand is the best Cocteau Twins album because it's the only one I've heard. Sugar Hiccup is an amazing song, however
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Album Rating: 3.5
victorialand is also the best cocteau twins if you hear more of their albums!
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keep me at a distance pls
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Album Rating: 4.0
literally what ars said; to characterise Pandora as "basically a minute and a half long song that loops 3 times" is a blatant mischaracterization of it, and this weird ascertion that it's lazy songwriting kinda just says you literally have no idea what you're on about.
The song's choruses are literally broken up by long instrumental passages, which progressively vary the theme and shift the direction of the songs mood while they do so. These instrumental breaks and melody progressions also serve to build anticipation of the chorus's return, it is then satisfying when it does. Every time the chorus comes back, there's always some subtle inflection or attack to the delivery, particularly noticible in Liz's vocals, but also in the synth.
The use of repitition in this song works as an affirmation of its grace. This song does not intend to deliver a punch---it is not, for example, Blue Bell Knoll or A Kissed Out Red Floatboat---rather, Pandora wants you to lose yourself in it instead. It is meditative.
Also btw Colton I just want you to know I regularly shit on company time
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"Also btw Colton I just want you to know I regularly shit on company time" aint a bad pick for a display name actually
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Album Rating: 4.0
jfc dude
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Album Rating: 3.5
Blue Bell No
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I like on pandora when it sounds like liz is saying the word husky
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Album Rating: 4.5
Colton listen to the rest of the MEC discog
You might like the new one a lot
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Album Rating: 4.5
I will shill
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Album Rating: 3.5
Can we not talk about marvel in the Cocteau twins thread ars
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