Wintersun The Forest Seasons
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Shadowmire
July 24th 2017


6660 Comments


"A ton sound better as well, what's your point?"
that the issue isn't particularly noteworthy here

Wolfhorde
July 24th 2017


15387 Comments


debatable.

Piglet
July 24th 2017


8559 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

wot is DR, dynamic range?

Wolfhorde
July 24th 2017


15387 Comments


Exactly, yes.

SCREAM!
July 24th 2017


15755 Comments


"that the issue isn't particularly noteworthy here"

Except this one was built/hyped up to an absolutely ludicrous degree and accompanied by a ridiculous funding campaign, so yeah there were certain expectations to be met that surpass your average album

analogplutonium
July 24th 2017


36 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Haters gonna hate. Most people here are somehow angry about the crowdfunding and they rate it negatively because people had to pay 50 Euros for this or because other bands can produce albums in a shorter time with a better mix. However you are not rating the music then. I see the album as a perk/gem to contribute to their crowdfunding campaign. From those 50 Euros probably only a very small percentage of money was used to produce this album.



I think musically speaking this album is slightly better than Time I although no song is as great as "Sons of Winter and Stars". On average it's better though. I have almost the same criticism as to Time I: guitars too low on the mix, orchestrations too dominant. I like their s/t the most because the melodies were driven by the guitars mostly and this I kinda miss here. Nevertheless the album is very good I think, it surpassed my expectations slightly. So it's around a 4 for me. I do hope that in the future they will focus more on guitar driven sound though.

Wolfhorde
July 24th 2017


15387 Comments


Yes, I am rating the music. In the wider context of what is possible, of what was promised in the same genre of music.

If you choose to ignore the surrounding context of art you are free to do so but don't mock others for applying different criteria.



Piglet
July 24th 2017


8559 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

all this made me want to do is listen to ne obliviscaris instead

Wolfhorde
July 24th 2017


15387 Comments


they sure are better

Piglet
July 24th 2017


8559 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i have been idly hoping for years now that you'd change your av duderoo

Wolfhorde
July 24th 2017


15387 Comments


I thought about it but I can't find my Akerfeldt or Yanni pictures and then I was like meh why bother

DrKralle
July 24th 2017


29 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"If you choose to ignore the surrounding context of art you are free to do so but don't mock others for applying different criteria."



i don't think anyone got mocked. i just pointed out that, especially if you take the sputnik-specific shitstorm concerning every wintersun crowdfunding news in consideration, a lot of raters seem negatively biased. it is also one point if you take an ideology in terms of black goat of goatmoon clearly being a fascist asshole as reason for downvoting an album and another one if you do it because you don't like jari for initiating a crowdfunding campaign and being a diva. the latter should not weigh in as much as the former.

DrKralle
July 24th 2017


29 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"what are people's opinions on the remaster of the debut?"



it slays. the old already did, the remaster does it even a little better.

ivanlovrencic
July 24th 2017


1 Comments


"what are people's opinions on the remaster of the debut?"


remasters are great. perfectly clear sound, much more lively and with a sharper edge

Ocean of Noise
July 24th 2017


11368 Comments


Except this one was built/hyped up to an absolutely ludicrous degree and accompanied by a ridiculous funding campaign, so yeah there were certain expectations to be met that surpass your average album


The as-yet unreleased Time II was hyped up to a ludicrous degree, not this. This was a surprise.

zaruyache
July 24th 2017


28631 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Why believe that a studio and more control are necessary, though, if Jari can't even mix this one right in the first place?

mifzal
July 24th 2017


3459 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

album sucks ass with or without solid production

analogplutonium
July 24th 2017


36 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

well whatever criteria people are using, the rating is really unusually low here on sputnik, and it sure has something to do with all the hate they have been getting here during the crowdfunding. anyways, I do not really care about those ratings, I just do not think that it's far worse compared to time I.

Coldplaz
July 24th 2017


214 Comments


Why does the album cover look like a loading screen from some cheesy fantasy RPG?

DrKralle
July 24th 2017


29 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"album rocks with or without solid production" --> this!



"well whatever criteria people are using, the rating is really unusually low here on sputnik, and it sure has something to do with all the hate they have been getting here during the crowdfunding. anyways, I do not really care about those ratings, I just do not think that it's far worse compared to time I."



absolutely. been reading several reviews from several countries and haven't seen such bad ratings anywhere else. sputnik hates jari :'(





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