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smok just allergic to metal

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allergic to the non metal shamefully attached to the metal with bits of wire and duct tape

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So ahead of its time [2]

Definitely, like what else from 1985 sounds like this? Can't really think anything off the top of my head.

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just cut and paste bits of 80s thrash with 70s prog together

Album Rating: 5.0

"just cut and paste bits of 80s thrash with 70s prog together"



Pretty much all of this album was written when thrash metal wasn't even fully congealed into a genre yet, dumbass

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lol it was well established the fuck you talking about thrash poseur



they were riding the coattails by adding prog to stand out by the time this was written, and yes i am including the boss demo

Album Rating: 5.0

They formed in 1982 and spent the bulk of that time writing the material then and at the very latest, early 1983. The Boss recordings version of Energetic Disassembly was originally on track for a release date of summer of 1983 before their initial label had gone under, meaning that they had to work on independently releasing the album a year and a half/two years later.



How exactly did they ride the coattails of a genre that was practically in its infancy when they started writing any of the material on this album? It's like calling Bonded by Blood a Kill 'Em All clone.

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there are barely any thrash riffs on it compared to rush n trad metal



venom already had 2 albums out by 1982, america got a hold and the big 4 + exodus all had significant contribs by 1983 on the same timeline



not to mention all these



https://www.metal-archives.com/search/advanced/searching/bands?bandName=&genre=thrash+metal&country=&yearCreationFrom=1970&yearCreationTo=1983&bandNotes=&status=&themes=&location=&bandLabelName=#bands



granted they werent all thrash at the time/didnt necessarily have anything out by 83 but were all working on the same shit without the prog to crap it up

Album Rating: 5.0

"there are barely any thrash riffs on it compared to rush n trad metal"



Asylum, Meltdown, the title track, Cimmerian Shadows, Argonne Forest and Violent Change are all overtly thrashy. It is kind of interesting that your entire argument is that this is just '80s thrash with '70s prog but the only '70s prog band you name as a point of comparison is like...one of the most overtly metallic ones. Like, one of the band's that's influenced metal the most from that decade even outside of this band lol



"venom already had 2 albums out by 1982, america got a hold and the big 4 all had significant contribs by 1983 on the exact same timeline"



Yeah, and so did Watchtower, moreso than one of the big 4 being Anthrax. What's your point?



"granted they werent all thrash at the time/didnt necessarily have anything out by 83"



And this band did lol, you're talking out of your ass

Album Rating: 5.0

sorry smok youre out of your element lol. not cause you dont like the record but you just dont know anything

Album Rating: 5.0

it really sounds like cocksmok just read my joke review i wrote like 10 years ago and called it a day on brain thinking for the year. the hamster is tired, cant run on a wheel when its fed children of bodom and cradle all day

shit I wish he liked cradle more tbh

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i mention rush bc the band literally says they were listening to heavy shit + rush when writing their own tracks. influential or not rush was never metal



and no theyre not overtly thrashy its too light



way to ignore venom. anthrax has a 1982 release as well hello? the point is they were hearing the heavy shit and getting on the bandwagon adding prog to stand out whats not to get, and all they had was a demo. you realize that if they were writing boss in 1982 everything released in 1982 was written in 1980-81 as well right?



bruh thats a list of 255 bands that all contributed either before or during the same time. they were the first to get more technical with it but they were inundated with early thrash by then, and thus quite nearly literally were sticking prog to thrash and heavy with pieces of straw and duct tape. evidently youre ignorant of anything before 1983

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sonic its time to give up your metal carrying card if youre that oblivious to the trvth herein posted

Album Rating: 5.0

"bruh thats a list of 255 bands that all contributed either before or during the same time."



Yeah, and in many instances, they probably weren't really doing much that was actually thrash until like '86/'87 (with their demos being most likely trad/USPM) which is super common. Anthrax was just one of those given that 1982 demo is just Maiden/Priest worship. So was Overkill too, to name an East Coast band I actually enjoy.



Exodus, Destruction, Artillery, Megadeth, etc. were all pretty innovative even in their demo period but those tend to be in the minority. Just pasting a database of bands who would later be classified as thrash doesn't help at all.



"influential or not rush was never metal"



Never said they were

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if venoms thrash so is motorhead. and if motorhead is thrash... rush is symphonic black metal! confirmed :D

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"adding prog to stand out" i think they were just naturally influenced by it, just like venom, metallica, exciter, countless bands were influenced by rush especially. dumbfuck

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the truth is you dont even know what youre arguing and you found this band 6 weeks ago speedrunnin shit

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>Yeah, and in many instances, they probably weren't really doing much that was actually thrash



well the only way to figure that out ofc is to listen to all of it then isnt it



obviously the earlier isnt going to be as hard hitting as later but its still thrash



>database of bands who would later be classified as thrash doesn't help at all



the first 100 or so are thrash only, naturally again it would take listening to every entry to sort which ones were trvly thrash early on and which werent. point being watchtower took what did exist and rush'd it

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to me this has thrash, prog, heavy metal, whats there to argue about? its like how bodom has bits of dream theater, bits of at the gates, bits of evanescence