I guess my main response is that many great musicians have great emotional intuition, which reframes these considerations as a bit of a Gordian knot. I could propose a tentative academic framework for gauging, studying and (I guess) 'measuring' this, but this would end up as me talking out of my arse. The bottom (ha) line is that you're only ever working with a line of best fit when it comes to play on people's feelings, and when it comes to working out where to reliably place that line, ironically enough, you're better off soaking up as much subjective experiences of your own based off how other people gauge it in their works, rather than undertaking a calculated study on objective terms.

I guess this is slight contrast to my last post, but I see it as a two-sides-of-the-same coin deal - certain musical vocab carries certain normalised subjective connotations, but it still needs to be implemented shrewdly by whoever wants to exploit it as such

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@Johnny I'd imagine emotional intuition plays a part. I'm sure dexterity does too, and we must not forget that luck probably also plays a huge part, for better or worse. Good thing I'm not a musician, considering my emotional compass is about as detached from subjective reality as can be. Honestly, I feel we can safely conclude this discussion for now. This record is far too well-made for all of these digressions, even if I find them intellectually stimulating.

Safely concluded lol!
Unrelated but why is your avi a plan of the panopticon?

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I love talking music but this is too nerdy even for me

ok viper

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@Johnny Because I want to remind everyone that they live inside a prison constructed by capitalist power structures in order to enforce our conformity to an inherently exploitative system! But on a more serious note, Wolfe arleady has Nietzsche and Foucault is a rather brilliant thinker in my opinion, and the notion of a panopticon avatar on a music forum appeals to me for some strange reason.

P.S. Panopticon by Isis is also one of my favourite all time records.

I guess I'm just too dumb to keep up with this thread

Now watch me repeatedly headbutt my punching bag when the blasts in the t/t come in

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I can't keep up with this on mobile. this kind of discourse requires a full computer.

"the notion of a panopticon avatar on a music forum appeals to me for some strange reason"
Lol I vibe this

this kind of discourse requires an OK computer

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hum...is there anyone that actually Bends to that discourse?

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@Johnny It's a definite vibe.

Radiohead is back again I see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eoshSRV5oE

check coldplay

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfa0swRs9bQ

What a bloody record that was btw.

so many iconic moments

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This shit isn't wearing off. Easiest 5 since....shit idk Altar of Plagues for me?

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Altar of Plagues is a pretty rad band.

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it was my album of the decade. I can't think of anything that blew me away instantly and didn't wear off in the 7 years since that album. I 5'd a couple things, but they kinda grew on me and tbf probably aren't true 5's. I'm feeling confident with this.

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That Altar of Plagues is literally perfect record. I can't find a single flaw in it. I wasn't big on black metal before it, but it opened my eyes to the genre as a whole. Haven't heard a bm record with actual riffs before that one.