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onionbubs
February 25th 2025


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

the real big brain move is when an album of any kind in any style is too long that you can just shorten it for yourself around your own preferences



not that that negates any criticism about the specific release, but just so you can chisel out the album you actually wanted anyway

CottonSalad
February 25th 2025


3275 Comments


Smashing Pumpkins MO ^^ lol

Odal
Emeritus
February 25th 2025


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 4.8

I mean, imagine this with Blink:



you have every song off self-titled and like half of Take Off Your Pants and like half of Enema and some stragglers from Dude Ranch all stacked on one album and it is billed as an album, not a compilation.



Even though all those songs would be great, you'd still be checking your watch and wanting them to wrap it up.



When something is presented as a compilation, you kinda give a little more grace as the medium itself is kind of an admittance that it's not "canon" or intended to be consumed as its own body of work. Maybe that's too in the weeds and silly, but that's moreso where I think the criticism of length comes into play

Wildcardbitchesss
February 25th 2025


19697 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I combined Eminem’s last like four albums into something worth listening to.

Drifter
February 25th 2025


21715 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"Good music is good music, but there is something to be said about having some boundaries on a particular creative piece."



yes, let's apply our individual subjective "boundaries" onto someone else's piece of art. this is the way to go! they should consult someone else before creating.



asking for an 80 minute album to be trimmed up 30+ minutes doesnt even guarantee that they keep all of your favorite songs. its also kinda anti-artistic self expression; they put all those songs on there because they wanted to. it wasn't made for you and you dont have to listen to the whole thing





Drifter
February 25th 2025


21715 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"You’re a gatekeeping fuckwit."



i could feel the spit that flew out when you stammered this to yourself in front of the computer screen. hope you have a good day.

Odal
Emeritus
February 25th 2025


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 4.8

Huh? lol



Subjectivity is implied, I'm not saying anyone can't do long albums but I think it's pretty easy to make the connection that it's harder to keep the plates spinning the more there are. I obviously don't have to listen to the whole thing of an album, but if I'm judging an album -of which we are on a site designed to quite literally do just that- then I'm gonna take into account the length as part of my feelings.

botb
February 25th 2025


19805 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I’m with drift on this one, I know sometimes the label dictates what songs get released on albums but I would say a majority of artists do have an artistic attachment to their work. Skits and interludes and everything included.

veninblazer
February 25th 2025


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"the real big brain move is when an album of any kind in any style is too long that you can just shorten it for yourself around your own preferences" which is how i handled tha carter v or hurry up tomorrow tbh

the thing though is that when rating an album, everything must be taken into account. An album that feels like 25%+ filler/padding/bloat can never be the full 5 stars imo, whittling it down to the top 10-13 tracks is easy, but flat out ignoring the elephant in the room of filler tracks only there to pad the runtime means your rating is inaccurate to the full experience front-to-back. skits absolutely can count and drag down an otherwise good album a half star/full star if they're bad skits.

5 stars generally means zero skips under any circumstances, if i find myself regularly skipping a couple tracks on an album I've rated 5, it's not a real 5

onionbubs
February 25th 2025


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

and nobody said you had to 5 them? its more so advice for personal enjoyment rather than the rating system anyway since thats j a number at the end of the day

veninblazer
February 25th 2025


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

fair nuff, though if i hadn't found a few 5worthy albums i know the "i don't trust anyone without a hip-hop 5" crowd would be on my ass

StormChaser
February 25th 2025


3151 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Interesting argument fellas. I'm definitely not a fan of bloated albums in general, and am definitely on the side that if an album is longer than 50 mins, regardless of genre, there better be a damn good reason for it. Also agree that if there are skippable tracks (skits not included as far as hip hop goes), I can't rate that album a 5. Furthermore, I think skits are cool for like the first 3 times you hear one, and then they just get the skip treatment from me as soon as the novelty wears off, but it's a rap thing I guess so whatever. Also, we've all probably been there when it comes to editing an album down to the stuff you actually like, but nowadays if a record makes me do that, I just mostly don't ever return to it as there are so many albums where I don't have to go through the effort of doing that, and also it makes me feel kinda dirty, mostly for the reasons Drift laid out in terms of [paraphrasing] "the artist wanted it to be that way". If an artist wants to water down their shit and bloat it the fuck up then they can do so, doesn't mean we have to like it or listen to it often

onionbubs
February 25th 2025


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

@venin that my friend is your incentive to dig into the roots discog

veninblazer
February 25th 2025


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

you're damn right on the roots, game theory was an incredible album and i see it reaching 5 status soon

onionbubs
February 25th 2025


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

such a special band, new album coming this year apparently too

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
February 25th 2025


19056 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

if a prog metal album is less than 70min long i'm skeptical of its quality just saying

jrlikestodance
February 25th 2025


6794 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Lots of interesting takes on album length. I really only get annoyed if a core or core-adjacent album is over 45 min long and even then there's prob some exceptions

veninblazer
February 25th 2025


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i think the best albums over 80+ minutes are post-rock or funeral doom (shoutout mirror reaper and esoteric)

Futures
Contributing Reviewer
February 25th 2025


17235 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

with few exceptions for certain genres if an album is over 50 minutes it better be worth every second

veninblazer
February 25th 2025


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

will probably never listen to Daughter of Darkness in full bc 6 hours is absolutely bonkers lol



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