Album Rating: 3.5

Hockey eh?

kinda... not that big on sports honestly. Basketball if anything

Album Rating: 5.0

Damn I'm listening to this album and I seriously cannot believe how good it is. No wonder I rated it

5. There are some great subtle moments like the intro to Radiant Eclipse that make this such a

balanced album.

i just find city of evil has so much more energy, more memorable riffs and lines and much more solid and focused songwriting and musicianship.

Album Rating: 3.5

^^^^^^



agree

^^^ Agree

Album Rating: 5.0

More energy, yes. That doesn't really mean a thing to me though. I find the riffs here miles and miles

ahead of what is on City of Evil. The pace and rythm are incredible.



Demi, how many times have you listened to City of Evil? I used to think it was their best, but time

revealed a lot to me. If you really have a clear picture of their albums then I respect your view. I

think the community ratings speak for themselves, though.



Interestingly, I still have City of Evil at 3.5 since I still enjoy it somewhat.

i honestly haven't listened to the whole thing in years, but i have listened to most of the songs very recently (past few days) and i don't think it sounds aged if thats what youre talking about. mind you it wasn't one of my most spun albums even back in the day, album is a strong 3.5, maybe a 4.

Album Rating: 5.0

By the way, back to the comparison discussion. You stated, "so much more energy, more memorable

riffs and lines and much more solid and focused songwriting and musicianship," all of which I agree

with (besides the riffs part).



To me, the intense combination of those points actually take away from the album, not make it

better. City of Evil is so condensed and focused that is sounds a bit corny. In other words, less

mature (not saying it is immature to like the album, though). There are longer breaks for repose in

Waking the Fallen. There is screaming accompanied by very good sounding clean vocals instead of just

clean vocals that, again, sound a bit corny in City of Evil.



I think my main concern is not the subject of what is good with City of Evil, but what is wrong with

Waking the Fallen. That, I don't understand. I guess it is your taste for metal and not metalcore.

that's exactly it- i dont mind cheese metal, at all. in fact im used to it. to me, a lot of the riffs on here just sound like generic metalcore.

Album Rating: 3.5

'I guess it is your taste for metal and not metalcore.'



definitely the case with me

Album Rating: 5.0

It is much slower here, I think is why. The slow pace gives the riffs more groove. There are fast

songs though, but not consistently fast like most metalcore.

Album Rating: 4.0

The fall of ideals is the only thing that comes close to this style imo

Album Rating: 5.0

Oh man you bring up Fall of Ideals, now I am in metalcore mode.

Album Rating: 3.5

coe sucks. weaker than the s/t and nightmare.

does not suck

Album Rating: 3.5

does, in fact, suck. sucks massive cock.

care to explain why

Album Rating: 4.5

The fall of ideals is the only thing that comes close to this style imo

Album Rating: 3.5

nothing interesting in the least. they even manage to fuck up songs with potential (the chorus to beast and the harlot is awful). and seize the day sucks as much as dear god.