Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off
I should have clarified Crysis, I try hard not to compare albums in a bands catalog to each other but in this case I find it very difficult.
Yeah I get what you mean now. I feel they went way too far in both directions (post-rock and black metal) on this album to hope for any sense of cohesion between the two. Their previous albums (Ashes and The Mantle especially) balanced them perfectly, whereas here you go from songs like "Into The Painted Grey" which chomps at the bit to be as black metal as possible to "To Drown", which is drenched in post-rock. It just doesn't work together when they are juxtaposed like that without any care given to the way they interact and clash with each other.
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Album Rating: 3.0
"doubt I'd get them tattooed on my forearm for nothing" a buddy of mine got Metallica in the new font (St. Anger and whatnot) tattooed on his forearm...I feel bad for him
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Album Rating: 4.0
I've been listening to all their stuff lately, so good :]
One of my favorite bands as well, they're too amazing for their own good.
I just got the split; if it isn't good I'm blaming you, Crysis.
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Album Rating: 4.5
I feel they went way too far in both directions (post-rock and black metal) on this album to hope for any sense of cohesion between the two.
I felt that way to an extent with Into The Painted Grey, which is why it's my least favorite track, but the others to me are just perfection. To Drown could be seen as a near-direct ripoff of Godspeed but to me it's executed so well to the point where it doesn't matter. Into The Painted Grey made me worry on my first listen, but luckily it was all for naught for me since I found the rest to be no less than amazing, and even then Into the Painted Grey is still enjoyable.
a buddy of mine got Metallica in the new font (St. Anger and whatnot) tattooed on his forearm...I feel bad for him
i feel bad too :]
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Album Rating: 4.5
I just got the split; if it isn't good I'm blaming you, Crysis.
the split with nest? no worries, it's awesome. [:
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Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off
I just got the split; if it isn't good I'm blaming you, Crysis.
Excuse the pretentious, old review I wrote for it but I can assure you it is a very nice listen.
To Drown could be seen as a near-direct ripoff of Godspeed but to me it's executed so well to the point where it doesn't matter.
That's where my opinion breaks from yours. It does matter because you can't have an album that so obviously blocks its two main influences from interacting with each other and hope for it to be a success. Aside from the two tracks I previously mentioned you have the incredibly divided "Black Lake Nidstang" which has four distinct and separate entities mashed together into one 20-minute song. They could have divided that into four parts (the intro with the nylon-string guitar, the core bm section, the rushing keyboard part, and the final bm conclusion) but no, they didn't. The album fails fundamentally at deciphering the fact that it places two separate things beside each other yet does nothing to attempt to coax them to work together.
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Album Rating: 4.0
That pretty much sums it up, the album struggles just to mix the post-rock and bm sections without them sounding forced, but then they throw electronic elements into the mix and it's almost like 4 different bands trying to make an album together.
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Album Rating: 4.8
I agree with both of you to an extent. I completely agree with Crysis the fact of them overdoing both the black metal and post-rock aspects and then trying to mix them together. To Drown is awful overall and goes on for way too long and Black Lake Nidstang could've been cut down as well IMO. The only song here that I would say is really, really good is The Watcher's Monolith.
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Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off
Then how can you possibly have this at a 4?
/confused
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Album Rating: 4.5
Aside from the two tracks I previously mentioned you have the incredibly divided "Black Lake Nidstang" which has four distinct and separate entities mashed together into one 20-minute song. They could have divided that into four parts (the intro with the nylon-string guitar, the core bm section, the rushing keyboard part, and the final bm conclusion) but no, they didn't.
I think the way Marrow works them together is seamless. Where they don't work them together at the same time like many of their other songs did, I think it almost works in its favour because every individual section (the post-rock bit, the drone bit, the black metal bits etc.) seamlessly work together for me and that in itself bridges the gap between them. Where they don't entwine with each other in this album, it bridges another gap - the gap between how well these individual genres can work in context with eachother rather than mixing them.
I'm a huge fan of each individual genre so maybe that's why I see it in that way and you don't, or perhaps I'm being a pretentious idiot but that's how I see it. For one bridge it breaks, it forges another.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Basically, if they took the best parts from the entire album and used them to make one song, they might be on to something. There is just too much disconnected uninspired sections as it is.
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Album Rating: 4.8
I was about to lower it to a 3.5 as we speak lol. But for me it's the fact that there's still some brilliant moments on pretty much every track, except To Drown for me, but it's not a consistent album like their others, as you said.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Basically, if they took the best parts from the entire album and used them to make one song, they might be on to something. There is just too much disconnected uninspired sections as it is.
but that's the thing, where it does seem as if it's a load of sections thrown together, it doesn't seem disconnected at all to me. It seems perfect, and the way that all the individual genres just seem to connect here is what makes this album so impressive to me. That and the songs themselves for the most part just absolutely blow my mind just like any
other Agalloch album.
but it's not a consistent album like their others, as you said.
I see what you mean but I don't really think inconsistent is the right word. It seems somewhat divided but that's part of why I love it so much, and I think the atmosphere is incredibly consistent throughout the album.
I'm not really trying to convince you guys to like it but I'm just clarifying why I love it. Where it's difficult to really explain why I love it, I think I did a relatively good job.
you guys still rule. :]
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Album Rating: 4.8
Yeah I don't have a problem with the atmosphere or the production, but yeah it's definitely divided and that's pretty much the entire problem. As Crysis said, they definitely don't blend the black metal elements with the post-rock elements too well on this album as they have in the past.
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Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off
Where they don't entwine with each other in this album, it bridges another gap - the gap between how well these individual genres can work in context with eachother rather than mixing them.
Yeah I think that was what they were trying to do but in my opinion shouldn't have done.
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Album Rating: 4.5
also the idea of splitting Black Lake into 4 parts is intriguing but then I'd have a difficult time pinpointing my favorite track on the album since I love all the parts of it equally :T
Yeah I think that was what they were trying to do but in my opinion shouldn't have done.
yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I love the idea though, and I think it's done incredibly well here. it seems like most people's biggest gripe is my personal strongpoint so I guess that's why I'm the marrow boy, heh. :]
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Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off
It would have been a much better move to split the thing into at least two parts.
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Album Rating: 4.5
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree because I think that song works together best as its own cohesive unit. I certainly understand where you're coming from, especially since the ideas there are so different, but I love each and every idea equally so I'd have such a hard time splitting them up.
I think the band see it the way I do too, so that's probably why it wasn't split up.
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I have few 5's yet this needed to be 5'd
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Album Rating: 4.0
get a room, guys.
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