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Then ignore them and find books on your own that interest you? Jesus fucking christ stop letting other peoples thoughts or suggestions, opinions think for you. Fuck other peoples suggestions find your own passions and interests. Try something new or out of left field for you, pick your own things! Good god book nerds arent so far up their own arse that alls they will suggest are literary classics. I wouldnt throw Dune or American gods at someone who just asked me for an easy read. Let alone throw classical literature like Le Mis, bronte, dickens at someone without understanding their reading level or openess to trying to digest the text

@ Venin
That’s not it at all. The point isn’t about lyrics becoming more obtuse or obscure, but about them going deeper into the nuances of the person translating their experience to their history, to themselves. Digging deeper with specificities and actual confrontations, rather than pussyfooting with barely enough vague detail that it only LOOKS like it’s actually talking about something as opposed to really trying to deconstruct the theme and come to a point

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It's not possible to completely go your own way without being directed by someone.

There's always going to be someone's recommendation or a thread that leads me where I'm going.

The "people also listen to" tab on spotify is the algorithm telling me what to do, and I do it because it's convenient.

Reddit threads asking for songs and albums about a certain topic make things easier and convenient, but by no means is it truly "going your own way" if you have to find it through another person or an algorithm.

With books I have to know what I'm going in for so I don't wind up wasting 300 pages and multiple hours on something I find out I don't even enjoy. At least with music, most bad albums wind up being under 1 hour.

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If you havent enjoyed past the first 50-100 pages you probablywont enjoy the rest of the book.

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i mean ya but people will try to say like "oh but it gets good at page 267" literally save me that crap

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people will say that about anything, doesn't mean you have to do it. People keep telling me Days Gone gets good 20 hrs in... I put it in 8 and I'm not wasting anymore time with it.

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see i'm used to being gaslit into forcing myself to do shit i don't enjoy. i don't like a certain metal genre for coming off samey and suddenly i'm being told i need to spend 200 hours on a bunch of albums that by the end i'll be like "none of this resonates, why did I do this?" and it's like, why do that when I can just focus on what I know I like and find stuff that does THAT in new ways?

and with games, it hurts even more bc if i spend 60 on a game that sucks and I find myself conveniently out of the refund window, i literally feel like I have to get to the end or spend 60 hours minimum to get my money's worth ($1 per hour is my litmus test) and it's miserable.

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That game looked very dull So i dont think missing much there Fear, also enjoy Dune! its a beast but wonderful.



Im going back to my book about a scottish girl becoming a surgeon in 1800s, this thread has depressed me more today than when it was talking politics and shit flinging

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Listen to one album of that genre in that example, see if it works for you or not. If not go:Not for me and move on

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Simply put, if you don't like it don't try and fight to like it! If I did that, I'd have so much more wasted hours on music/games etc. So many games I'm told get better and while it sucks to waste money on it, I'd rather waste a little money and try it then waste time which I'll never get back. Same goes for music, I'll stick to what I like or try things that I can see myself liking but I'm not going to keep attempting if I don't see fit even if it's acclaimed or loved. If everyone agreed upon things nothing interesting would ever happen.

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"If you havent enjoyed past the first 50-100 pages you wont enjoy the rest of the book."



This thread...

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"That game looked very dull So i dont think missing much there Fear, also enjoy Dune! its a beast but wonderful."



So many people say it's great but I was falling asleep during most of it lmao. Can't stand most of the mechanics of it! As for Dune, I'm very much looking forward to reading it. I only just started but barely touched it. Gotta find time!

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Its really dense also the new film covers 1/3 of the first book. It took me a few months on Dune.



@gnocchi Im sorry i failed

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see I think what's wrong here is, a lot of the (likely valid) critiques on my points just ring eerily similar to all the gaslighting I've done to myself and other people have done to me.

I have to be this. I have to be that. I have to conform. I have to be this version of myself that is more palatable to people. I have to live by society's rules and do things their way. I have to get everything right. Otherwise they're just going to leave me and see me as unfixable and undesirable.

Like I get you guys hopefully have your hearts in the right place, it's just being used in a way that rings far too close to what I've had to deal with for my whole life. So I get combative when I feel like I'm being gaslit into conforming.

please get a therapist and stop using this site as your diary. like i’m legitimately getting concerned for your well being

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Alright Venin, good step in acknowledging we arent trying to attack you. Secondly it would help if you didnt bite back at everyone who gives the mildest suggestion. I.e the "arm rest 9th grade english teacher" comment. The way you are replying to people who either have valid suggestions or critisicim to A) what you have said or B) about the discussion at hand is far too aggressive and defensive. There are people that will stir the pot and troll you here and everywhere else on the internet. No one is dehumanising you or suggesting you dont have a place in the world.

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"please get a therapist and stop using this site as your diary"



Pretty uncalled for after they just opened up.

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@Drifter: therapy isn't free and it doesn't help for shit for how expensive it is, i should know, i've been in and out of therapy for a decade now. forgive me if that sounds dismissive, i've just been through more than enough and i'm sick of it at this point.

@Ectier: like i said, i'm naturally combative if i feel like i'm being gaslit into being someone else's vision of me, and that's something I've been trying to work on for some time. that's not a healthy reaction, i'm fully aware. but if i've got people on my ass dogpiling it's overwhelming and, i've always been taught that if I leave then I'm a coward afraid to face what I've said and done.

"No one [here] is dehumanising you or suggesting you dont have a place in the world." FTFY. Here, sure, but in the outside world it's hell. Law after law gets passed to try to take our freedom and roll back the civil rights we've fought to attain. we cozy up to countries that throw people like me off buildings, we celebrate when a young trans girl gets stabbed, so on and so forth. Sput isn't the rest of the world, so I agree in the context of here.

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So for here at the very least: take a moment before you type a reply and work out if you have taken what has been said personally or not. You have admitted the struggles and problems you face which is a big step. Now the next step is changing these habits. Which is not an easy thing to do. So i apologise for any offense i may have caused to you, but need to take a breath and not lash out so suddenly or jump to hyperbole

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@ectier: thanks. it's definitely not easy, but eventually i hope I make it there. not just for you guys sake but for mine too. i don't like getting this flustered and lashing out at people. sometimes i wish i just had every popular opinion ever just so I could avoid confrontation but i don't want to be a fake poser.