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Remind me what your main gripe before was Doof? Was it the vocals? Because I really think if this had a more conventional Doof-style vocalist you’d be all over it - at this point I’m convinced the instrumentation here is up there with any of the indie-post-art-slowcore-chamber-rock that it’s influenced by. Funny though that you and I seem to have opposite opinions on this vs Black Midi.

And maybe I’m the wrong one to answer since I’ve become a hype beast for this, but I’m fairly sure it’s status on RYM at least will remain fairly stable. It’s already at 121 of all time on their charts with 25k ratings so future ratings going forward would have to be consistently very low to drop it much.

I was listening to this driving on the M25 this morning.
If I was stuck in traffic I think I would’ve killed myself.

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Boney - yeah the vocals sometimes take me out of the instrumentals too much



I think you’d be surprised how much a rating could fall in 10 years - a lot of those existing ratings could be dropped too as the recency hype drops

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It’s possible but the way the RYM system weights number of ratings means it’s pretty secure. Now if we’re talking beyond RYM/internet music fandom in general the consensus isn’t nearly as strong - obviously the response was relatively more mixed here.

I’m curious where it’ll land on critic year end lists - it has the second highest Metascore of the year but it’s so retro in most of its appeal that I kind of doubt it’ll top many lists, especially since it dropped so early too.

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I think the consensus will be its album of the year tbh

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it's certainly my aoty

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Then you will quite possibly carry the awkward shame of agreeing with the consensus best album of the year

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It's a good album for sure but definitely not AOTY

In ten years time this will be forgotten about.
Nothing is in for the long haul.

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I think Little Simz was the consensus last year, agreed by critics and RYM at least.

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I’m not sure there was one last year? Little Simz was popular but not as much as this

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This album will stick around, the Windmill/post-Brexit scene is well enough established at this point that it will remain part of the “narrative” of indie music history, and with this being probably its flagship work it will certainly be remembered for better or worse.

Man, I just can’t get into these doofdy vocals. And I like some 😐 vocals sometimes

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The Little Simz: did anyone/does anyone need to listen to that a year after release?

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it mainly exists as an online phenomenon

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I agree it’s still early days for the scene and technically the jury is still out, I think the question is how future artists build on it going forward. Again, there are already bands directly influenced by this thing which seems to indicate it will have legs. Could indeed be they all fall off the face of the earth in a couple years and become a footnote - these guys losing Isaac may well signal a premature death for them, though as you note Midi seem poised to stick around.

I don't see there being a true rock phenomenon any time in future. Closest thing we've had is prog metal/djent/guitar bro stuff

I'm just being a realist :]

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Windmill and 5th wave emo seem to be the only truly viable rock “movements” currently, to my knowledge.

shoegaze tiktok was a failure. Nu metal is our only hope