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no one cares

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MeTal V hIp HoP Who W1Nz

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Whos this sach guy

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@Vastwilderness: In responding to your above comment, you're frankly missing the point. Your first point is indeed correct within our specific cultural discourse, but the standards by which we judge those differences are historically contingent and socially constructed; they're transient properties and not reducible to certain standards which can exist detached from the socio-cultural realm within which they were created and formulated. Their existence is moreover derived from interpretations and thus subjectively assessed, I hope we've got that point across finally. You can also only break down a phrase to melody or harmony if it is contained within the music you're analysing, yet not all music contains these specific forms. Call those expression 'experimental', it doesn't detract from this fact.

Moreover, all of the concepts we're working with are pieces of text, forms of language which merely exist in our head, and are derived from a system of codes completely relative to time and place. We could call, whatever phenomenon we currently describe with harmony, 'blurb', and as long as we can normalize this designation on a systemic level, 'blurb' = what we used to describe as harmony. My point here, is that whatever we refer to is tied to specific, socially constructed, ultimately arbitrary abstractions of language. Things not external to any culture, things not ingrained in any 'natural law', but things construed within the domain of language, which is in no way extrinsic to social reality.

Whether we think specific chordal structures are preferable over 'randomly smashing piano keys' is socially conditioned, derived from subjective interpretations and filtered through an ever changing neurological system which has been shaped by transient forces. Insofar as there are universals, they're socially constructed, non-natural, fabricated and subject to continuous permutation. Whether something sounds better or worse, can change, is subjective, precisely because it is internal to human history and it might very well change with it. Our current foundations can be overhauled and changed, our current interprative frameworks can be altered and must certainly will as history continuous to unfold, whether they concern the quality of sounds or our interpretations of the world in general.

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'the doofuswainwright of metalheads that also seems to carry an adolfchristian sense of self-importance'



hahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha

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Music is can only really be original insofar as it provides a heretofore unknown combination of discrete aesthetic elements. Neither, hiphop, nor metal, nor pop can escape this fact. If you deconstruct any piece of music within any of those genres you will irrevocably find it using instruments, rhythms, harmonies, vocal techniques, which are ultimately comprised of elements which existed long before those styles of music appopriated them.

So yes, all music is inescapably derivative, get over yourselfs.

Imagine wasting your time typing that out

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Imagine thinking some things are ultimately not a waste of time.

"Interesting micro analysis [... ... ... ...] chances of survival universally."
how is it possible to spend so many words saying yes cultural background affects our consumption apart from when it doesn't while making the possibility for cultural disparity sound like the lost art of time travel smh what is this thread

"there is something life-giving or flourishing that ancestral knowledge has been passed down with the same patterns and functions? If not, why wouldn't every decade, generation, or new culture be completely random, chaotic and at odds with each-other?"
that's, uh, um, definitely a false dichotomy lol remember learning them in high school

"Not at all what it said, you prole"
fuck it, reported

"which are ultimately comprised of elements which existed long before those styles of music appopriated them."

Exactly, I don't believe there have been many truly innovative vocal techniques in most genres of music. The whisper pop of Lana Del Ray and Eilish is a trend that is just as "innovative" as death growls.

Perhaps the only significant vocal innovations of the past century can be found in the extended vocal technique.

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Nice

This album is pretty rad

order and chaos is the oldest dichotomy in the book and if "completely random, chaotic and at odds with each-other?" isn't such meaningless hyperbole that it can't not be a false application idk what is. cross-cultural exchange and subversion of traditional techniques etc are a well-established phenomenon and anyone who frames it as supremely chaotic or aleatory suggests limited understanding of how it actually occurs. whether not this is actually the case for you idk, but it ain't redeeming the standard of that comment either way.

regardless, this is such generalised bullshit that it has little bearing on anything for anyone and i feel guilty for contributing a comment in the same vein. sorry everyone itt.

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you must have exchanged personalities with space here darius, because you have to jest.

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The day that Mike Hoggard decides to upload a playthrough of literally any Ulcerate song will be a good gay.

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agreed Ulcerate are good gay

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@vastwilderness: The scenario you illustrate in your first paragraph is literally not an argument, considering the fact such an experiment has never taken place and could never take place; it's a historical impossibility. You've construed a fiction which might hypothetically substantiate a claim that you cannot seem to defend, without resorting to the postulations of those very fictions. If disparate cultures did responded similarly, that does not prove there to be universal laws for music appreciation, but merely the fact that they appreciate similar things over others. This could still be a product of the specific social conditioning occurring in prehistoric cultures. Again, we will never know. And I would be more hesitant to declare universal appreciations for certain charateristics in people with oppositie sexual anatomies could be entirely reduced to biology. Especially considering appreciation as a concept and the parameters for judging what might be appreciated are ultimately socially constructed anyway. Moreover, I feel I must add there are a plethora of ways a person's sexual anatomy can be construed; it's not a binary spectrum, with polar opposites and readily identifiable binaries. Besides, whether certain anatomical concept ought to be appreciated seems like something more so tied to gender and the ways in which any given culture/society navigates certain genetic predispositions through its own relative, historically contingent, non-universal, ideological narratives. (1)

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Now thats a Freudian Slip