its good but id take even lines in the sand over it tbh

Album Rating: 4.0

lines in the sand is a great call. i'm not a fan of fii at all but that song is ace

Album Rating: 4.0

Octavarium and ACOS are pretty much tied for 1st tbh, Octavarium just works better an an epic imo

Album Rating: 5.0

Lines In The Sand is an epic and DT made only a few like it, jazzy and lengthy, and I don't care what others say, I believe Doug Pinnick's vocals fit perfectly. Both lists are nowhere near mine, as I believe happens with almost all of us. Octavarium No1? No.

Album Rating: 4.5

Lol at the Octavarium hate.



I don't think it's their best song, but it's easily their best epic along with ACOS

Album Rating: 4.5

seasons shits all over octamavarium



octs gd tho dont get me wrong

Album Rating: 4.5

Seasons sounds a little too dated to me.



But on another note, Octavarium takes far too long to take off.

Album Rating: 5.0

seasons shits all over octamavarium [2]



Octavarium is good, but ACOS...

Album Rating: 5.0

C'mon, is it even debatable? ACOS is full of ideas, passion and variety, whereas Octavarium is plain DT doin' the same thing over and over again, for just more minutes than usual.

at least its better than illumination dreary

Album Rating: 5.0

String section of Illumination is probably the best part of the album, it feels refreshing and organic in contrast to most of the album

honestly dont even remember it, listened to the album like 3 times then chucked it into the cd rack never to be touched again

Album Rating: 4.5

yea that part rules, havent listened to that album is fucking months though, still go back to dramatic just for you know who

Album Rating: 5.0

For the dude that destroys every illusion, dude's cool agreed

Album Rating: 4.0

The s/t is probably worse than FII, which has its moments, and about the same as their debut.

Album Rating: 5.0

FII is 5th DT, so yeah the s/t is definitely worse

Album Rating: 4.0

FII could've been their third best if the five worst songs didn't exist and the ACOS movements ended the album.

Album Rating: 5.0

Indeed it could have been high, but 3rd? 1st I&W, then Awake, after that comes Scenes and then FII. Their s/t must be their worst record ever, along with their debut, that I never jam.

Album Rating: 4.0

"FII is 5th DT"



nah i'm pretty sure it's their 4th

Album Rating: 4.0

Their s/t must be their worst record ever, along with their debut, that I never jam. [2]



This is probably tied with 6Deg for 3rd best after I&W and Scenes.