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Cormano
August 19th 2020


4498 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

ok but how are the endings to Cemetery Drive and Fashion Statement bad?

Colton
August 19th 2020


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Album Rating: 4.0

I see what you're saying, but I feel like the way she says "I'm so blue all the time" is kind of detached from the funeral story, it's more of a general statement of her state of mind. I don't think it's meaning would change much if it weren't connected to the whole funeral story and she just wrote a song about being blue all the time. So in that sense, the song being about a funeral doesn't feel like too much of a crutch she uses in order to be vulnerable.

luci
August 19th 2020


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this article really made me appreciate "Funeral", especially the line you quoted

https://longreads.com/2020/03/11/what-do-we-do-with-feelings-now-that-they-dont-matter-anymore/

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2020


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Hmm, I think the song benefits so much from the sense of pathos associated with the funeral that it's a bit sketchy to say whether that line would work as well if it were just another songs about sadness (especially since she has a fair number of these, and the lyrics have never grabbed me the same way ;]).
Agreed that it doesn't feel like a crutch though - if anything, you could be cynical and criticise the song for overwhelming the framing story's sadness with her own

Romulus
August 19th 2020


9117 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

this convo is making me go back and analyze all the song endings on three cheers

Colton
August 19th 2020


16757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"if anything, you could be cynical and criticise the song for overwhelming the framing story's sadness with her own"



yeah, she does kind of address that at the end though with the "feeling sorry for myself

when I remembered someone's kid is dead" line. The way she feels almost guilty for feeling the way she does while people are experiencing things like their kid dying is an interesting concept and is probably relatable for a lot of people

Colton
August 19th 2020


16757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

@luci that was a good article.



"But her attack was full of youthful, energetic certainty"



I like to think all my opinions are full of youthful, energetic certainty

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2020


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Nice luci - No, this song isn’t about someone who just feels bad, it’s about someone who knows it doesn’t even matter if she feels bad, and it’s so awful. Don’t you see how awful it is? gets it down neatly and ties in with what I'm trying to nail down; it's not a song about sadness, it's a song about what it means to feel sadness in different contexts, and I feel she gets much more across by taking a less direct approach as such
@Coletee I agree and don't personally feel cynical towards the track bc I think its various levels are moving and well constructed, but I can see how some people would consider that line an inadequate way to cover for herself

Colton
August 19th 2020


16757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lol yeah there's gotta be at least one person out there who's just fuming at Phoebe for having the audacity to feel sadness when someone lost their kid and she didn't

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2020


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one day that person will go to a cafe and sit down opposite neek who will be sipping a chai latte, listening to phoeB and doodling a screenplay about feeling sad and neither of them will ever know about the conversation they might have had

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
August 19th 2020


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

ok but how are the endings to Cemetery Drive and Fashion Statement bad?




i didn't say they were. revisit "hang 'em high" to see what i'm talking about

Romulus
August 19th 2020


9117 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

oh that's a good shout - i do think it works in the context of the general chaos of that song but it is definitely silly

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2020


64287 Comments


had forgotten 1) how messy that ending is 2) how hard that song bangs 3) that the chorus is literally Lay All Your Love On Me

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
August 19th 2020


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

it's a great fucking song lol



but the ending is silly

Romulus
August 19th 2020


9117 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

omg the 'lay all your love on me' comparison

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2020


64287 Comments


chalk The Jetset Life Is Gonna Kill You up for another dud ending, get the DA in here

Colton
August 19th 2020


16757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Well if I see any news articles about a filmmaker catching a murder charge in a cafe around the same time Neeka stops using sputnik I’ll know why

theBoneyKing
August 19th 2020


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

People saying this grew after time off makes me think I need to try it again because I kind of decided “Graceland Too”, “Kyoto”, and “I Know the End” were the only truly essential songs here.

Cormano
August 19th 2020


4498 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I get what you're saying Chan but I can't help but love that song and find the ending quite fitting



"one day that person will go to a cafe and sit down opposite neek who will be sipping a chai latte, listening to phoeB and doodling a screenplay about feeling sad and neither of them will ever know about the conversation they might have had"



lmao

hamid95
August 19th 2020


1329 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

the quieter tracks really do creep up after some listenings



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