Well, vocal metal styles is just one element of the music that could be developed. Has hip hop brought forth any """"original"""" rhythms in the past two decades?
edit: As for new vocal trends, I think Silencer's Nattramn can be credited for pioneering the dsbm banshee vocals on "Death, Pierce Me".
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demilich vox sound like belching, inquisition vox sound like frog croaks, pig squeals in some brutal death, dsbm vox sound like a live castration etc.
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Lets hope Paul learns some Mongolian Throat singing for the next album
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@vastwilderness: Well, whether one can tolerate other forms and aesthetic methodologies tied to music production, what one might find to appreciate in certain musical forms, be it their melodic patterns, rhythmic intricacies, resonant features etc., or the exact lack of these, think of modern classical music, Ulcerate's earlier work, various John Zorn release and countless others; think also of amelodic musical works, musical works with ametric compostions etc., varies wildly between people. It doesn't necessarily come down to the concepts you've listed, and what a culture might appreciate will vary wildyl between different time periods and even different domains within that culture. There really are no readily discernable, homogenous, universal standards, and even if there were, they can continuously change and are not necessary outcomes of some natural law, but historically contingent mutations which are produced by specific social cultural and especially social-economic processes.
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has it really been 30 years wtf
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I don't think you can designate all metal as being stagnant aesthetically because of the lack of an explicit difference in vocal usage. It depends on what you mean by unique in way, but various bands have made unique contributions to the genre or carved out their niche, even if they are comparable to other outfits. Ulcerate is one of those outifts, even if Gorguts or Immolation can be seen as important influences.
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cont.
Osbourne (and Sabbath) have been credited with a "godfathers of metal" status and despite it being a rather coining marketing term it makes sense. Skipping a bit; Aussie "rockers" like AC/DC are largely considered heavy metal within mainstream media circles (a conversation for another time) and again the vocals evolved to fit a different style within this so-called unchanging style (and we haven't got past the eighties yet). So with that point in mind I'll ask you: Is the AC/DC style the same as Iron Maiden, Sabbath, Saxon, or Motorhead? I mean you could get back to semantics of genre tag debate - but that's not where this conversation started and to do so would be a bit of a cop-out.
We can move on from here - but I wouldn't be so narrow minded about it - especially considering we haven't moved into the variance of vocal sounds amongst different sub-genres of metal and frankly, I'd love to spend the rest of the day spelling it out.
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ACDC are hard rock so...
@vast I edited a comment above.
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But regardless... I'm not talking about the unique voice of a vocalist (aka the difference between Dagon and Shuldiner), I'm talking about vocal techniques. Anything new since the early 90s?
Right, I'm with you now. You could make this argument about any genre. Pop artists still sing the same way as the innovators before them so nothing has changed there in the last thirty years? This just got boring. I mean metal vocals fry, growl, shout, [insert the shit parks said above here], inhale, hum, take on throat singing, ancient dialects and Celtic undertones - I mean the list could potentially go on, but I feel like they'd be dismissed because it doesn't fit a line of argument here.
@Ghandi, read again. You've missed it.
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@vastwilderness.
Even if the basis for many harsh vocals revolves around pushing sound out of your diaphragm and manipulating the airflow with one's tongue and mouth, operating on the basis of eithera fry or false cord foundation, the amount of different forms of manipulation that can be implemented are almost endless and the sound one can produce will also be dependent upon the vocalist's specific anatomy.
To suggest that the genre has become sterile, because vocal styles and techniques developed in the past are still widly used today seems narrow-minded, ESPECIALLY considering the fact that metal-music, is, for the most part an instrumentally focussed genre, so the originality and experimentation occurring within that domain is of a much greater importance, and I think we can all agree it has definitely occurred, as has saturation, but this much remains undeniable.
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Aw shit here we go again with the politics
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what memento said
Also, I'd like to know what the fresh vocal techniques are in hip hop.
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lol what a trainwreck
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getitright666 is sach, report and ignore
np
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Has anyone here heard of Unhuman? Their selftitled from 2013 is genuinely impressive especially the vocals. Haven't heard something like them since
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then it's not stuck in the past thirty years ago like metal continues to be.
and from the same line of argument:
Yet.. metal tended to innovate new vocal sounds.
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Ah looks like stage 4 has come early
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"Pop definitely has the least innovative of all vocal styles.Has been the same since the 20s"
No???
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didn’t we already do this like 15-20 pages ago?
all music is derivative
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hahhhaha What the FUCK is that hahhaha
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