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soymilk13
February 15th 2018


420 Comments


stop using big words I barely graduated high school

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

'anyone who says that they accept queer culture but don't wanna see it'



I've never encountered anyone anywhere ever saying that...but I'm not American if that's the difference

soymilk13
February 15th 2018


420 Comments


as an american can confirm that is a thing that is said frequently here

zakalwe
February 15th 2018


42015 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Our cultures are aligned because of this internet contraption and the bullshit on the box.



We are now one.



Weep.

soymilk13
February 15th 2018


420 Comments


@winesburgohio ok reading back after looking up like half the words you were using, I am kind of a moron for reading that paragraph how I read it

soymilk13
February 15th 2018


420 Comments


but also what do you mean by "and though i'm uncomfortable with his myopic portrayals of both"

Winesburgohio
Emeritus
February 15th 2018


4188 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

sorry -- i mean that his marketting and persona hinges on him being black and queer, but he doesn't invest thought or reality or stickiness into either, content instead with kinda sweeping platitudes and romantic soul and i've heard from black friends they can't fuck with it and i shit-sure can't fuck with a dude whose selling point in his queer sexuality who won't broach it in ways that don't make the straights uncomfortable.

soymilk13
February 15th 2018


420 Comments


but what marketing tho

soymilk13
February 15th 2018


420 Comments


dude literally just exists in the public eye and puts out music

Papa Universe
February 15th 2018


22502 Comments


I think Wines means that Frank purposefully exaggerates and exploits that persona, while he actually isn't like that.

guitarded_chuck
February 15th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"i support the argument Frank Ocean's persona is a cynical manipulation of "woke" tropes and saccharine emotion that divests from the libidinal investment of queer culture to make it palatable to a demographic who accept it but don't want to see it"



jesus christ wines are you fucking serious

Winesburgohio
Emeritus
February 15th 2018


4188 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

"why so serious" - Jack Nicholson, 2018. R.I.P.

guitarded_chuck
February 15th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"sorry -- i mean that his marketting and persona hinges on him being black and queer, but he doesn't invest thought or reality or stickiness into either, content instead with kinda sweeping platitudes and romantic soul and i've heard from black friends they can't fuck with it and i shit-sure can't fuck with a dude whose selling point in his queer sexuality who won't broach it in ways that don't make the straights uncomfortable. "



listen, your whole argument is completely nullified by the fact frank was enormous before he came out, he was the main singer on Watch The Throne LONG before he did



fuck offffffff

Papa Universe
February 15th 2018


22502 Comments


Whoa what?

Winesburgohio
Emeritus
February 15th 2018


4188 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

i genuinely find it concerning that saying "Frank Ocean and the people he foregrounds on his album come from vastly different material conditions that impacts on claims of a purported shared experience" is, like, controversial.



also i don't really like the music idk

Winesburgohio
Emeritus
February 15th 2018


4188 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

i'm just discussing this album i haven't heard this Watch the Throne business but i'm sure it's a different beast and I will judge it on my personal rubric accordingly

guitarded_chuck
February 15th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

whether you listened to it or not your point is invalid, his career was well on it's way LONG before he came out

guitarded_chuck
February 15th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

did some critics give it some bonus points based on same lame progressive culture pandering? i have no idea, probably, but you know me well enough to know i am absolutely definitely not in that camp

Papa Universe
February 15th 2018


22502 Comments


Okay, Nicholson is alive. Flase alarm.

BigPleb
February 15th 2018


65808 Comments


Those damn flase alarms.



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