Lil Wayne Tha Carter IV
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qwe3
March 24th 2012


21836 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"one day me and qwe will put all our bad blood behind us and drink 40's on the beach while listening to this album."



that would be chill.



not this album tho >

Relinquished
March 24th 2012


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"if you think all his music is "shallow" and "hedonistic" then you haven't listened to enough"

yeah that's me right here but I won't be bothered to listen to more just like you and the shuggah :/

qwe3
March 24th 2012


21836 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

dude i am pretty sure i have listened to shuggahs discog man still didnt enjoy them.



i'll give koloss a listen if u give the prefix a listen : D

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

i used to listen to him around the carter 2 era when i was like 15, i just grew out of that stuff. i admit his mixtape stuff is better than his singles, but he's got nothing on early common or cunninlynguists or mos def or any of that stuff. i hate rappers that just brag about how rich they are or how much pussy they get. good for them, but that's not music, that's just bragging. rap should be poetry.

Relinquished
March 24th 2012


50089 Comments


"dude i am pretty sure i have listened to shuggahs discog man still didnt enjoy them.

i'll give koloss a listen if u give the prefix a listen : D"

bro doubt the first part but u got ur self a deal : )

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


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Album Rating: 1.0

i also have a moral issue with his promotion of cough syrup abuse to a fanbase that he has to realize is young and impressionable. but even if all of my complaints were remedied, there's still that damn annoying kazoo sounding voice of his that i just can't deal with.

Relinquished
March 24th 2012


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lol a moral issue with rap

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

i like rap actually, i just don't think drug endorsement is necessary in pop music that kids can hear on the radio.

qwe3
March 24th 2012


21836 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"he's got nothing on early common or cunninlynguists or mos def or any of that stuff"



ok well in terms of sheer rapping talent hes definitely better than anyone from lynguists, probably better than mos def and common too. but i don't think you can compare them musically.



they write for different audiences and reasons. common and def write about different things, with different production and aesthetics in mind. it's like comparing radiohead and maroon 5. they're still both "rock" technically but can you actually say one's better when they clearly have different things in mind?



"i hate rappers that just brag about how rich they are or how much pussy they get. good for them, but that's not music, that's just bragging. rap should be poetry."



this right here is incorrect. the rap should be poetry stuff not the i hate stuff. ok for one rap's origins do actually lie in poetry (gil scott heron etc) but it definitely developed away from that aaaages ago with stuff like bambaata and whatever.



mobb deep rapped about shit they killed and bitches they fucked (as well as life in the hood or whatever you want to call it) and none of it was even true they were suburban college kids who made up a bunch of stuff cuz they wanted to rap. does that make them any worse as rappers? nah it really doesn't.



it's not the subject matter you should judge on but the way he raps about it. it's fucking clever! no one thinks up shit like "yeah im eating but i got a tapeworm in my stomach" or things like that. it's all about wordplay and twisting words around. liquid non sequitors, purposely mixed metaphors, etc. especially on tapes.



rap has never and will never be poetry. it is poetic but it is a different beast.



"but that's not music, that's just bragging"



this is a really stupid thing to say. music and bragging can definitely be the same thing. heaps of music includes bragging. i mean shit, some of eminem's best raps are braggadocio. fucking big boi brags all the time and i dont see anyone on sputnik saying he sucks.



its a double standard. completely.





qwe3
March 24th 2012


21836 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"

i like rap actually, i just don't think drug endorsement is necessary in pop music that kids can hear on the radio."



oh so youre that guy

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

i don't mean that rap and poetry should literally be one and the same, but when you're looking at a

genre as lyrically based as hip-hop, it seems dumb not to try and write the best lyrics you can. when

i write lyrics, i spend weeks on a single verse. any i'm not saying i'm the best lyricist but i can't

see lil wayne spending more than 30 seconds on a verse. there's a time and a place for freestyling but

imo it's not on a studio album. when i brought up cunninlynguists i didn't mean they had an incredibly

technical flow, i just meant that their lyrics actually MEAN something. i honestly don't understand

how somebody could derive pleasure from listening to somebody talk about how much better they are than

you. it's like psychological masochism.

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

lol yes i am THAT GUY. sxe 4 lyfe.

but in all seriousness, edge or not i feel like promoting hard drugs to teenagers is something that most people can agree is irresponsible for someone with as much influence as lil wayne.

gabethepiratesquid
March 24th 2012


4522 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I'm sure you're a cool guy auber, I just kind of think you don't get it. I used to be a lot like you

and EXACTLY like andcas when it came to view of music and especially of hip-hop.



Like, I think you confuse "good lyrics" with "lyrics that have a lot of flowery words or try to

sound as 'deep' or 'meaningful'" as possible, which isn't really the case. I'd say Lil Wayne can

have great lyrics from the wordplay and clever way he sets imagery is. Drake doesn't SOUND lyrical

at first because he's so conversational with everything he says but when you scratch past that there

are layers of subtext. Yes, I love Common, I love Mos Def, I love 2Pac, I love a huge amount of

socially conscious rappers but that isn't what hip-hop is about. The genre STARTED as mindless party

music with cats like DJ Kool Herc. Yes, braggadocio rap CAN get stale sometimes but the wonderful

thing about Lil Wayne is that he had so much charisma and cleverness that he knew how to keep it

constantly fresh. I'd much rather hear someone do himself/herself rather than try hard to make

generic "political/deep/meaningful" statements that most of us already know because he feels

obligated to.



also drugz r cool nerd.

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

i don't know, i guess it just doesn't appeal to me.



"lyrics that have a lot of flowery words or try to

sound as 'deep' or 'meaningful'" as possible"



lol that pretty much describes the kind of lyrics i like. i guess that's the way i write so i like artists that have the same lyrical mindset. i don't know, maybe i'm just a pretentious butthole.

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

"Yes, braggadocio rap CAN get stale sometimes but the wonderful

thing about Lil Wayne is that he had so much charisma and cleverness that he knew how to keep it

constantly fresh."



i respect the ability that these kind of rappers display with wordplay and such, but when i can't relate to the subject matter at all, it doesn't really matter how clever their rhymes are.

gabethepiratesquid
March 24th 2012


4522 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

"but when you're looking at a genre as lyrically based as hip-hop, it seems dumb not to try and write the best lyrics you can"



also I think this is misconception. I'd say hip-hop has more of a "vocal-center" than revolving around lyrics. Like, sometimes it has to do with how things are said/delivered rather than fantastic lyrics. Think of it like My Bloody Valentine's Loveless. The vocals are essential to the music, but can you even make out ANY of the lyrics? Not at all unless you have super ears that can hear through layers of reverb and vacuum cleaner-guitars. Kind of how like Waka Flocka's rapping is essential to his music but his lyrics aren't very poetic or anything at all, they're just kind of bestial and his pure charisma and energy drives everything.



"lol that pretty much describes the kind of lyrics i like. i guess that's the way i write so i like artists that have the same lyrical mindset. i don't know, maybe i'm just a pretentious butthole."

lol it's cool I used to be literally exactly the same. Maybe it'll develop, maybe not.



but hey if you like that hip-hop you should check out

Jonwayne - I Don't Care

he makes crazy beats and he kind of spits neat abstract shit that can be fun, too. Some tracks are produced by FlyLo but it's mostly him I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0eZtpQCcTc



Stalley - Lincoln Way Nights

the subtitle of the mixtape says it all "Intelligent Trunk Music". Kind of "smart" rap that you can bump in a whip. His album should be coming out soon, forgot when though. Also he has a beautiful beard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gShx2eXBWKE

Trebor.
Emeritus
March 24th 2012


60333 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

lyrics are gay

gabethepiratesquid
March 24th 2012


4522 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

also fun fact: Stalley is in MMG (Rick Ross' crew), probably the most "conscious" lyricist in the

group but my favorite rapper in there is Gunplay.



"lyrics are gay"

true dat.

auberginedreams
March 24th 2012


6678 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

"lyrics are gay"



thanks for the constructive insight.

Trebor.
Emeritus
March 24th 2012


60333 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Mine are anyway



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