Between the Buried and Me The Great Misdirect
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bloc
January 23rd 2010


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well if that's true, i am glad they separated it into its own track instead of including it with either Fossil or Swim. i skip it every time.

Waior
January 23rd 2010


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Album Rating: 3.0

Desert of Song rules. I wasn't sure at first, but yeah... this is now a 4.5. The entire thing, especially when compared to Colors, is a lot more discordant/dissonant/otherwordly (and not just because of the audio clips; scales, progressions, everything), whereas Colors was very consonant; almost symphonically orchestrated at times. The albums really don't sound that similar.



Can't update my rating on an iPhone. Ugh.

Baphomet
January 23rd 2010


7363 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

well if that's true, i am glad they separated it into its own track instead of including it with either Fossil or Swim. i skip it every time.




fair enough. Oh and the best part is the ending in Fossil

bloc
January 23rd 2010


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oh come on, Colours is way more dissonant than this. This actually has normal note choices and chords.

HeadbangMastermind93
January 24th 2010


702 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I agree with Hitman; I've had the beginning and end part of Disease stuck in my head for months since I got the album...I love that whole song (especially the crazy bass part) but those two sections are freakin' catchy :P

HeadbangMastermind93
January 24th 2010


702 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'd say the only down parts of the album is the middle section of Swim...it seems like there's a huge chunk of that song where I kinda zone out and forget...but other than that I actually really like Desert of Song...

bloc
January 24th 2010


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yes LP

Waior
January 24th 2010


11778 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

oh come on, Colours is way more dissonant than this. This actually has normal note choices and chords.




yo i have my computer again REFURBISHED WOO so I'm going to find some resources and song times to illustrate my point a la tus lista de "fortress groove analysis"

WhiteWallStargazers
January 24th 2010


2647 Comments


and Waior goes off on a nerd adventure...

bloc
January 24th 2010


70880 Comments


oooh goody

why, thank you for praising my old works, i am glad such a high caliber list shan't go to waste.

Waior
January 24th 2010


11778 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I present a short compare and contrast of tonality between Colors and the The Great

Misdirect
.



Example one: jazzy clean solo over an acoustic chord progression.

Location: 3:51 - 4:31 on 'Desert of Song', 10:45 - 11:25 on 'Ants of the Sky'



On 'Ants of the Sky', Dustie uses a C#m to A chord progression (in standard tuning, I can't be

bothered to transpose) while Paul does a strictly C# pentatonic and A major scale - consanance -

and when the song makes its awkward transition into a major progression (B, Bb/B, G#m, F#; again

in standard tuning), Paul's lead work stays in the B major scale (with one or two jazz scale notes,

but they're hardly dissonant) and remains completely melodically neutral. In 'Desert of Song',

however, the chord progression is immediately a rather sour, confusing concoction (the song has E

and Em in near contrast and the Cmaj7/G - Asus4b6 juxtaposition makes it phrygian I believe - I

could be wrong, it's been a while since I learned my modes). Paul's solo in 'Desert of Song' does

not abide to a specific scale, by my observations, but it moreso follows the chord progression

and changes with each respective chord change.



Listen and you'll hear the drastic difference. I know this is just one moment in a million on both

respective albums, but I'd rather not type out an entire theory summary on both albums. I can find

a few more instances... such as the symphonic part of 'Ants of the Sky' in contrast to the opening

lead riff of 'Swim to the Moon', or how about the entire ending of Fossil Genera - very

deliberate and strange melodic choices in contrast to the consonant arrangements on 'Foam Born

A: The Backtrack'.



bloc will understand my perusing were nobody else to! FOOD FOR THOUGHT!



robertsona
Emeritus
January 24th 2010


28661 Comments


i almost read that first thing and then i didnt

Waior
January 24th 2010


11778 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

nick greer wouldn't be uncertain about the phrygian mode, i can tell you that much!

bloc
January 24th 2010


70880 Comments


oh shite, you are actually right; the solo in Ants seems much more cozy because it's keeping within the same key as the backing chords.

and since the Desert solo doesn't follow the backing chord and key changes, it has a much greater impact and it grabs your attention. you pretty much forget about every other instrument except that lead guitar.

but in MY defense, i don't listen to Desert of Song very much so nyah nyah.

Waior
January 24th 2010


11778 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

oh shite, you are actually right




hahaha FANCY THAT



Maybe I'll just write a review in that form, hitman, haha. Over my dead body (O-ver-my-bo-dyyyyy!). I listened to Disease's opening part over and over while buying coathangers today.

bloc
January 24th 2010


70880 Comments


sigh.....

i remember you had mad love for I'LL JUST KEEP WAITING, YOU'LL JUST KEEP WAITING.

Waior
January 24th 2010


11778 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

hey now, when a man's gotta hang his coat, he's gotta hang his coat!

iwrestledabigmaconce
January 24th 2010


251 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

the end section to Fossil Genera!

fatlip27
January 25th 2010


246 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Just got back from the House of Blues-Chicago. AWESOME, AWESOME show. BTBAM metaphorically tore the roof off and they would've done it literally had they played Mordecai and/or Selkies, but great show nonetheless.



Now I can finally die happy!



Nevertheless, California here I come! BAD RELIGION is next.....

JizzInMyPants
January 25th 2010


2965 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

yes the first 35 seconds of disease is one of the most intense things they have ever done. then it hits that 10 minute mark on...with that explosion at 10:12...god dammit i went insane at that part when i saw em on the 9th



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