And why is that ? because there are normal people who don't support genocide and apartheid ?

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No lmao



More like I have a problem with ignorant racists like Doof getting an eternal pass



The more aggressive shit can be bore because it's usually fixed eventually, but ol lads like Zak and Doofy are grandfathered in to muck about

“ If people had marched through the streets of London in the ‘80s with ‘I ❤️ IRA’ banners their feet wouldn’t have touched the ground all the way to the jail cell.”

this reminded me to put my order in for my I ❤️ IRA t-shirt. good lookin out

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Why is that racist champ?



Surely what I claimed is inherently non racist in that I lump all terrorist organisations in together (the IRA are white Irish you see, if I need to spell this out for you...I'm sure I don't) :/



I've never said I'm pro Israel, I said (elsewhere on another chat here) if you pick a horse in that race without any direct connection to the conflict you need to be real sure you've studied it in the sort of depth that requires hours and hours and hours of reading.



Otherwise, I'll probably think you're ill informed.



What I said was a fact, openly supporting prescribed terrorist organisations on the street in the UK used to lead to arrest, it is what it is. London is a scary place to be Jewish right now.

"I can't be racist if I also happen to discriminate against m*cks ; ] check and mate, m8"

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We can go through every terrorist/militant fascist etc organisation in the world and I won't humour any of them...and guess what some are white European/white British.



What now?

is the IDF a terrorist organization?

how about the CIA?

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tarring a few outliers from the london marches as pro-hamas/hezbollah is *arthritic-tier air quotes* Not Necessarily racist if you take it in good faith

but i for one don't have a shred of that for someone scummy enough to reduce one of the biggest waves of protests in British history to terrorist sympathy while its overwhelming focus is horror and anger over genocide

how dare you bitch and whine in every other politics discussion about the fragility of free speech when you waste yours on such disingenuous bilge

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Nope.



Again I might not agree with everything they do but by definition they aren't terrorist organisations.

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Johnny - you're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say all but there are certainly people carrying such banners at the marches.



When people don't self police in such a group then you need...uh...the police.

"unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

both Israel and the CIA have violated international law. both have used violence against civilians for political aims. they are terrorist organizations. by definition.

interesting double standard tho

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you're old and contemptuous enough to know how dogwhistling work — put fair context into your original remarks, or find something better to performatively huff at

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I don't believe Israel are actively targeting civilians to kill but they're certainly knowing civilians will be killed in their operations...they're engaged in warfare and whether it's a 'just war' is where your opinion comes in. I wouldn't say terrorists but if they're guilty of being war criminals then that would fit the bill, though that's out of my remit to decide.



I choose to have no opinion other than hoping for the best with it, if it was my choice it wouldn't be happening but such are naive hopes.

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I maintain - anyone displaying pro prescribed terrorist (by UK law) slogans openly in the street should be arrested and at the very least warned and fined.



It's a multi cultural society, I'm trying to think of anything more intimidating to the jewish community in London than that - oh yeah, police officers telling people not to look 'openly jewish' when the marches are taking place.



If you think that's all ok I'm probably not ok with you, but that's my stance cheers.

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"how about the CIA?"

Henry Kissinger has entered the chat

Absurd to call it a war. It's a government bombing and starving and displacing almost exclusively civilians.

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For the record, I do think "freeing Palestine" is a bit of a futile endeavor. I just don't think you'll be able to convince the majority of Americans to care about it. Israel is a part of the White Western Cultural Alliance countries, especially given its history as a safe haven for Holocaust victims, and the Middle East is seen as a perpetual warzone where people naturally suffer unjustifiable deaths.



Most Westerners probably aren't actively rooting for Palestinians to die, but are just not going to lose any sleep over it if they do.

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people will die / but they're far away / so never mind / bullets are blind

- Kalmah, a music band

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Part of me wishes this wasn't so much of their standard delivery and had more experimenting with sound on it. I feel like this is a rehash of a lot of previous content (even the guitar tones are identical to old passages). Still solid, just not new

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It’s a war, they’re taking out militant groups with civilian casualties. It’s a stretch to say they haven’t taken out a lot of military infrastructure and personnel.



October 7th is a terrorist act as it wasn’t targeting military personnel.



Look, I don’t like any of it but these are the definitions.



I don’t see how being a war criminal would be better than being a terrorist so it’s almost a moot point.