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Kusangii
February 13th 2024


8432 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

This guy has some of the craziest fanbase ever. Some of them will literally defend everything this guy does even if he would murder someone.

botb
February 13th 2024


19796 Comments


I’m not disputing Kanye is an insufferable asshole lmao I’m just telling you calling him a nazi is wrong as fuck. He’s an easy influenced narcissist edgelord who will buddy up with literally anyone who yes man’s him

matbla00
February 13th 2024


613 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

"On December 1, 2022, West stated that he admired Adolf Hitler, denied the Holocaust, and identified as a Nazi."



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Kanye_West



What are you even talking about.

Odal
Emeritus
February 13th 2024


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, I don't necessarily think Kanye is a nazi so much as he is an edgelord who is too prideful to admit he was wrong and out of pocket so he boxed himself in and ingratiates himself with figures on that side because they welcomed him with open arms. Materially, him being a true believer or not matters very little in terms of the harms he's done and the harmful rhetoric and dogwhistling he's perpetuated. I think a younger, more stable Kanye -the one who made Dark Fantasy- would've used this album to explain his perspective and mental illness more but, well, he's severely mentally ill and insulated from any sort of actual repercussion.



I do legit think some of his fanbase would actually support him if he outright murdered someone lol

Sevengill
February 13th 2024


13098 Comments


"Some of them will literally defend everything this guy does even if he would murder someone."

Well, he's wearing Burzum gear so...

botb
February 13th 2024


19796 Comments


“What are you even talking about”

Here I’ll help you so you don’t even have to go back a page

I’ll even be nice and break it down for you so you don’t sound so wildly out of touch saying this shit.

Kanye is one of the most influential music production figures still active today, his influence can be traced through many genres. Obviously that doesn’t make him not an insufferable douche but the only reason he says a majority of the shit he does is because he’s an edgelord. The right has embraced him specifically because it falls in line with their anti-cancel culture rhetoric and so they tokenize him a say “look black people agree with us too!!!” That and he’s rich so he’s a possible donor to people if they’re nice to him and tell him what he wants to hear.

21 savage has done a shitload of work for his area and has donated a fuckload of money to underprivileged communities. He started off just kinda riding the whole mumble rap shit but he’s really turned into someone whos using his power for good. If you think white republicans are listening to 21s music you are fucking stupid

Drake is a CANADIAN more or less child star that gets tons of people to write his music for him under the guise of formulaic pop music. I know more women that listen to Drake than anyone else and if you think American women are in the forefront leading the incel charge worldwide I’m not even sure what to say to you

“Well, he's wearing Burzum gear so...”

Nobody who is not a nazi has even worn a problematic shirt


botb
February 13th 2024


19796 Comments


Yeah, I don't necessarily think Kanye is a nazi so much as he is an edgelord who is too prideful to admit he was wrong and out of pocket so he boxed himself in and ingratiates himself with figures on that side because they welcomed him with open arms. Materially, him being a true believer or not matters very little in terms of the harms he's done and the harmful rhetoric and dogwhistling he's perpetuated. I think a younger, more stable Kanye -the one who made Dark Fantasy- would've used this album to explain his perspective and mental illness more but, well, he's severely mentally ill and insulated from any sort of actual repercussion.



I do legit think some of his fanbase would actually support him if he outright murdered someone lol

[2] very well put odal

ConcubinaryCode
February 13th 2024


8132 Comments


Why are people treating fantano like he's a crazy person and Kanye is just quirky? Like do these type of comments not prove he kinda has a point?

Odal
Emeritus
February 13th 2024


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, the infantilization that people do to Kanye is extremely weird and parasocial. He's literally an adult billionaire with unlimited resources at his disposal lol

Scoot
February 13th 2024


24129 Comments


kanye just does shit without considering any consequences. i don't think he's evil so much as infantile

Scoot
February 13th 2024


24129 Comments


@kusangii swifties would commit mass murder if she told them to

ConcubinaryCode
February 13th 2024


8132 Comments


He's not a nazi, he just hangs out with them, repeats their talking points, says we go to hard on them, and that there was a lot to like about Hitler. What would he need to say or do to be a nazi in your eyes?

sizeofanocean
February 13th 2024


3757 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Fantano is a literal man child, and he's throwing his hissy fits for the public to see

sizeofanocean
February 13th 2024


3757 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

@scoot agreed

Odal
Emeritus
February 13th 2024


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Tbh, it's honestly splitting hairs because I agree with you that he basically causes the same amount of harm as if he were a nazi so there's no real material difference.



I believe he's very likely antisemitic and conspiratorial. I believe he likely shares a lot of harmful BHI views. I think he is also an edgelord with a lot of pride who is taking the easy route instead of reflecting on his actions. I do think there is a meaningful line between that in being a full-blown nazi rhetorically, but I'm not gonna die on the hill. He is a person who thinks and does a lot of bad things.

Scoot
February 13th 2024


24129 Comments


i'm not going to debate any of this shit.

or listen to this lol

ToSmokMuzyki
February 13th 2024


14949 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

wtf why arent i allowed to talk about ye too

vult
February 13th 2024


3422 Comments


Rationalizing nazi rhetoric and antisemitism is a problem. Whether he thinks about it or whether he is infantile or not doesn’t justify him doing it or give him a pass lmao you guys are fucking dumb

Fantano is one of Kanye’s harshest critics and he has to deal with vitriol and toxicity from a very dedicated and emboldened fan base such as Kanye’s - that would assuredly fuck with your mental and make you more prone to lash out like Fantano has done.

Wildcardbitchesss
February 13th 2024


19592 Comments


[2]
It’s really not complicated at all.

Rubvo
February 13th 2024


31 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i don't dislike this.



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