I downloaded all the songs last night. They seem to me to be typical modern rock with a more than typical guitarist. If you are into the modern rock scene or even the classical rock scene I suggest you check this band out. Other than that, you will be disappointed.

I give the CD a 3 or a 3.5 out of 5


And Splash just a little tidbit. Even if this is your favorite album that doesn't mean it deserves a 5. One of my favorite albums is Doolittle by the Pixies and I gave it a 4.5 because I knew some people just wouldn't like it.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo]I downloaded all the songs last night. They seem to me to be typical modern rock with a more than typical guitarist. If you are into the modern rock scene or even the classical rock scene I suggest you check this band out. Other than that, you will be disappointed.

I give the CD a 3 or a 3.5 out of 5
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I don't think you can call him typical by any means lol. The guy like mentioned before is more talented than most of the musicians in this era. Agreed its not for everyone. But if you want good honest well written rock and roll, Alter Bridge is the one to check out now. I mean we really had a dry spell of this for awhile. I mean I know during these years a lot of bands like Jet, TWS, and some others came onto the scene and were quoted as rock but come on get serious that wasn't rock. Not to take anything away from them but they were not what we needed.

The guy like mentioned before is more talented than most of the musicians in this era

But if you want good honest well written rock and roll, Alter Bridge is the one to check out now.

Album Rating: 3.5

I agree to the poster above me, you shouldn't give it a 5. I love Alter Bridge with a passion, but you have to take into account that people may not like it. A 5 rating should be an album almost everybody loves.







Weaknesses-



1. Myles goes so high on this album and i love it, but he doesn't go low very often, i would love to see them do that more on the next album. -.1 off total rating



2. No cool bass solos and the bass is kind of hard to hear. ( Not a bad thing to some, but as a musician i like cool bass stuff. As a bassist i don't like that. -.3



3. A couple of the songs (Open your eyes, In loving memory) are songs that sound like they could have come from creed. I love Creed but i would love see Tremonti distance himself with Alter Bridge. Like I said its only a couple songs. -.2



4. The Watch your words intro sounds like something metallica would think of, I know tremonti loves them and think he may have kind of copied some structure off of metallica, i don't love metallica (Hetfield's voice is annoying to me) but i can stand them. -.1





Strengths-



1. Variety- If you like all kinds of rock you will love this album. Its got hints of the 70's and 80's rock written all over it.



2. Cool solos- Some people say that tremonti is just showing off and the solos don't fit. If tremonti was trying to show off then he would have a solo in every song. This is not true. Even some of the heavier songs don't have solos. The Open your eyes solo uplifts that song and makes the song from decent to good.



3. Awesome drumming- Man Scott Phillips busts it up in this album, I always knew he was good and underrated with creed but now i truly know how much of a badass he is. (Look at the song Metaligus)



4. THE singing is amazing- Myles kennedy is up there with the top 20 rock vocalists of all time. His voice can go so high and has so much power. The only weakness is his lack of going low.



5. INfluence other bands to do solos- If Alter Bridge gets as popular as creed, I think there is a chance of an end to Numetal and pop punk. (This is just a theory) People will realize that songs can have solos and people will like them.



6.The Ability to go soft to hard- Shed my skin is a perfect example. IT starts off slow and then instancely goes fast. PLus there are about 4 soft songs and 7 hard songs. (SOme are both, i just put what mainly they were)



7. Meaningfull lyrics- So mainly emo crap lyrics destroy many artists today. The lyrics on this album have a theme and throughout the WHOLE album that theme is re-addressed. (THe theme is how to deal with the past)



8. Catchy lyrics- You can sing along to most of the songs.





Overall- 4.3 out of 5



I think people will really be influenced to check out the classics when they hear some Alter Bridge. I think this album is one of the best to come out in the 2000's and i would recommend all of you to check it out. It is worth the dl or the $15. I can't wait till the next album!

Ok lets take a look at this.

First off Mark Tremonti is one of the best guitarist out there. Espically if you combine his skills at as a Song writer and his ability on the guitar.

Now look at this. Mark has written hit songs on all 3 of Creed albums, and has written every single one on the ab album instrumentally and lyrically. Now my main point is that he has written songs that become hits continuely. Now this is not an easy feat. As a musician this is what you shoot for. Stuff that appeals to the public. It sells cds, and brings people to the concert. Mark does this flawlessy, and shows no signs of slowing down. Each work he has done on the guitar is work of art when it comes to construction and flow. Now when it comes to talent there are probably a good number who are better and few names come to mind, but obviously are not the writers that Tremonti is. For Rock though in this generation he is one of the best and if things continue to go good for him, maybe one of the best in history.

Now the whole thing with Roger Clyne, I know of him but he definately is not in the same catagory as AB. Its totally debatable, but his stuff just doesn't have the flares of ab's. And I still don't understand the cheezy comment lol, but everyone has there opinion.

Album Rating: 3.5

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo]I sure hope you mean in Rock n' Roll. Because I can name a couple guitarists who are ten times musically talented off of the top of my head.





Acutally. If you want good honest well written rock and roll check out Roger Clyne and the Peace Makers. If you want cheezy mainstream rock. Check out Alter Bridge [/QUOTE]



Cheezy? JUst because they are popular doesn't make them mainstream, your opinon on well written rock and roll is subjective.

Now look at this. Mark has written hit songs on all 3 of Creed albums, and has written every single one on the ab album instrumentally and lyrically. Now my main point is that he has written songs that become hits continuely. Now this is not an easy feat. As a musician this is what you shoot for. Stuff that appeals to the public. It sells cds, and brings people to the concert. Mark does this flawlessy, and shows no signs of slowing down. Each work he has done on the guitar is work of art when it comes to construction and flow. Now when it comes to talent there are probably a good number who are better and few names come to mind, but obviously are not the writers that Tremonti is. For Rock though in this generation he is one of the best and if things continue to go good for him, maybe one of the best in history.

personally i don't think scott stapp sounds like eddie vedder. i know i'm gonna be flamed for saying that, but i don't give a sh!t, i'm saying it anyway.

i'm a young guy. creed, along with korn, was pretty much my introduction to music, which happened around the time "follow the leader" came out (f'ing awesome album). before that i didn't listen to ANYTHING, even tho I had already played guitar for a couple years (my dad got me on guitar). human clay was one of the first albums i bought, and i thought the whole thing was cool (except for With Arms Wide Open, cause the album version sucked, whereas the orchestrated version was a bit better).

fast forward to now. i've been playing guitar for 8 years. i listen to everything from metallica to steve vai to stevie ray vaughn, frankly anything that rocks (except if it's talentless and generic, a la Good Charlotte), tho i really can't get into stuff like screamo and black metal, because i don't really feel that, while the guitars are generally pretty good, the "scream until you vomit all over the first row" and the "grunt like an ox on crack" are really musical. but i still like creed, even tho i do recognise that scott stapp is a pretty pretentious guy. for all their shortcomings tho they did put on a pretty good live show (listen to them perform "roadhouse blues" by the doors, performed WITH robbie krieger). i was also a fan of mark tremonti's playing. even tho he didn't solo much with creed, his playing was visceral and straight up, which i liked.

i was anticipating this alter bridge stuff the moment i heard about it. when i first heard "open your eyes" i was thinking "yeah sounds like creed, so i'm not missing too much"... then the solo kicked in and BLEW ME AWAY. instantly i was hooked. i wanted this album.

i buy the album and listened to it. 5 solos. could have been more, but the ones that are here are AWESOME. my current fav song from this album is "burn it down", cause while it's not super edgy, and it's not a ballad, it's really kind of "searching for something" music. mark's playing has progressed so much and he's really come into his own. the guitar is exactly what rock guitar should be: full of range, excellent rhythm playing, and kick-you-in-the-balls solos.

my take out this disc. is it ground breaking? no. has it been done before? yeah it has. has it been done this well? noooo. is it really good music? I think so.

my own PERSONAL rating for this disc is 4.5/5

its not really that tremontis playing has progressed its more that this is his band and he cant be held back like he was in stapp's band (creed) but he is an incredible guitarist.

I agree to the poster above me, you shouldn't give it a 5. I love Alter Bridge with a passion, but you have to take into account that people may not like it. A 5 rating should be an album almost everybody loves.

Acutally. If you want good honest well written rock and roll check out Roger Clyne and the Peace Makers. If you want cheezy mainstream rock. Check out Alter Bridge

i wonder what all the people who diss mainstream just cause it's mainstream will do if Children of Bodom and Dimmu Borgir are ever considered mainstream.

I acutally don't like Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers. I respect them though. They create good rock n' roll music.

On broken wings I'm falling
And it won't be long
The skin on me is burning
By the fires of the sun

This album has the lyrical knowledge of a 5 year old. At least Creed was somewhat clever in their writing.

I'm not going to be able to convince you that Alter Bridge isn't the greatest band ever too exist and have created an amazing album so I won't even try. I love the Pixies. But in no means do I believe they are the most amazing band in history. They are my favorite. So when I review them I try to take out my bias and show what makes them a weak band. You as the reviewer should have done that.

Album Rating: 1.0

[QUOTE=SSSnake]

As a musician this is what you shoot for. Stuff that appeals to the public.[/QUOTE]



Not necessarily. You sound like Gene Simmons.



I also wouldn't agree that Alter Bridge even are rock'n'roll. Rock, yes, but there's a difference.



[QUOTE=Dek]

JUst because they are popular doesn't make them mainstream,[/QUOTE]



But the fact that they are playing mainstream rock does.

I'm not going to be able to convince you that Alter Bridge isn't the greatest band ever too exist and have created an amazing album so I won't even try. I love the Pixies. But in no means do I believe they are the most amazing band in history. They are my favorite. So when I review them I try to take out my bias and show what makes them a weak band. You as the reviewer should have done that.

On broken wings I'm falling
And it won't be long
The skin on me is burning
By the fires of the sun

I also wouldn't agree that Alter Bridge even are rock'n'roll. Rock, yes, but there's a difference.

Album Rating: 1.0

[QUOTE=splashfreak]That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. What on earth are you talking about?[/QUOTE]



The fact that there's a difference between rock and rock'n'roll.

[QUOTE=splashfreak]That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. What on earth are you talking about?[/QUOTE]

actually this is fairly true, what bartender said. rock & roll is more along the lines of kiss and the rolling stones. just "rock" is a broader palette, that encompasses all the sub-genres (GOD I HATE THAT TERM), eg metal, alternative, grunge...

Album Rating: 1.0

^Thanks, though I would've chosen different bands to illustrate the point.

[QUOTE=SSSnake]Ok lets take a look at this.

First off Mark Tremonti is one of the best guitarist out there. Espically if you combine his skills at as a Song writer and his ability on the guitar.[/QUOTE]


To the reviewer:

If Alter Bridge is your favorite band and writes the best music in your opinion then I don't think you should have done this review because it was completely biased. I did a converge review and I didn't rate it 5/5 because I loved the album. I thought the score I gave the CD was justifiable to the CD itself and to potential buyers who enjoy that type of music. I did not give them a 5/5 because they are my favorite band and the most talented band, such as you did.

By the way, what other bands are your favorite bands, just curious.This Message Edited On 07.06.07

it's a pretty difficult thing, to give an unbiased review, not only because you have to find a way to escape your current mindset regarding the people you're reviewing, but you have to be ready to face the flame war at the end of the road.

for example, let's say i review britney spears...

biased mode:
"this album is industry generated garbage, don't buy it."
result:
britney spears fan - "you writing a biased review, you piece of poo!"

unbiased mode:
"this album is very upbeat, and has serious hooks, and excellent production values" (it makes my stomach turn to have to say that, but i need to illustrate the point)
result:
britney hater - "wow man you're ****ed. go get laid and buy a guitar. you need it, cause you SUCK!"

see what i mean?

The last time I saw Britney Spears review on this forum?