Album Rating: 5.0

"First four Metallica albums are all downright classics. They were one of the top metal bands of all time in their prime - even after listening to countless of records in the entire genre, I stand by this statement. "



Even with my problems with Justice, yeah this is true.



"he's always been a smart, cunning motherfucker. he's the littlefinger of metal."



Never thought about it like that, but yea you have a point there. His drumming is still embarrassing, though : - (

Album Rating: 5.0

"I mean yeah they're great albums but the title track here alone is better than anything off those albums imo. That song transcends thrash metal."



What a pretentious fucking statement considering all of the albums in the history of the thrash subgenre that destroy this one.

There's def lots of thrash records that I like just as much as this one, but "destroy" is a strong and dare I say delusive term

Album Rating: 5.0

It's really not when you consider that Energetic Disassembly came out a year before.

Album Rating: 5.0

i don't find that statement to be pretentious at all but whatever



album is a stone cold classic

I think namedropping a bunch of semi-obscure (and nonetheless stellar) releases and implicitly acting like they're all that much more genius for all their obscureness is way more pretentious than claiming your love for a classic everybody already knows but is nonetheless a classic - but whatever, that's just me

Album Rating: 5.0

"I think namedropping a bunch of semi-obscure (and nonetheless stellar) releases and implicitly acting like they're all that much more genius for all their obscureness"



OK, here is where I'm going to have to stop you. They're not all the more genius for their obscureness. They're just far more interesting and meritorious releases, period.

Album Rating: 5.0

i remember when i was young and thought i knew things everybody else didn't

Album Rating: 4.5

"It's really not when you consider that Energetic Disassembly came out a year before."



Not with the parrot on the mic of that album.

Album Rating: 5.0

"Not with the parrot on the mic of that album."



The idea of being faced with more varied and compelling release and then attempting to argue its inferiority on the basis of vocals IN THRASH METAL is patently ridiculous.

Album Rating: 4.5

@Casavir: Not really, if I don't like the vocals on any record then I'm not going to enjoy it. Not going to say Thrash has a pool of virtuoso singers but some thrash vocalists have a grit and personality which I really enjoy, improving the album as a result.

is band you speak garage group of small home town you live men? hehehehe

Casavir, dude, you're acting like your average wannabe-trve-metal-kid-next-door who just a year ago began to expand his tastes beyond the entry level borders and now feels the obsessive-compulsive need to wage an unholy crusade against everything even remotely considered "entry level" by ramming "but...but...that lesser known album is way more artistically and culturally refined and this well known album lowered the bar" rhetoric down everyone's throat.

If you prefer a Coroner or Forbidden record to this, than that's entirely fine. It's music, it's subjective - but maybe it wouldn't be a terrible idea to comment in those threads then or write a review or make a list about it or something or whatever instead of whining up each and every thread which concerns a record that might have gotten a new kid on the block into metal.

who is person compare band no one hears to this? hehehehe is joke men?

Album Rating: 5.0

"What a pretentious fucking statement considering all of the albums in the history of the thrash subgenre that destroy this one. "



First of all, disagree hard, second of all it literally broke into a world of people who don't even like thrash metal so I don't feel like I was that far off there dude. Not too many people who aren't into metal are going to be turned on by fucking Coroner.

Album Rating: 5.0

"I think namedropping a bunch of semi-obscure (and nonetheless stellar) releases and implicitly acting like they're all that much more genius for all their obscureness is way more pretentious than claiming your love for a classic everybody already knows but is nonetheless a classic - but whatever, that's just me"



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Album Rating: 5.0

OK, let me share a quote given by one of the emeritus on this site regarding this album:



"The band's aim was to move beyond the genre completely, introducing a level of intelligence and compositional technique unheard of in thrash metal (or almost ANY metal at that point), without sacrificing any of their sheer brute force."



Knowing that Megadeth's debut and Watchtower's (perhaps even The Spectre Within and Walls of Jericho given the criteria in that quote) already existed a year prior, this statement is patently untrue because that level of intricacy was most certainly heard in this genre by '86 and was arguably done to far more extensive degrees.



"Not really, if I don't like the vocals on any record then I'm not going to enjoy it. Not going to say Thrash has a pool of virtuoso singers but some thrash vocalists have a grit and personality which I really enjoy, improving the album as a result."



Saying that Hetfield's vocals (easily the most negligible element of this whole album) make it a more revolutionary and superior release is a joke.

Album Rating: 5.0

"Honestly, to me Lars is proof that you DON'T have to be good to be at the level Metallica is at."



sure, a lot of drummers from that era were more technically proficient than Lars, but it's easy to forget in a genre like thrash metal that drumming isn't all about speed and fills and thrills, its priority is keeping a beat and giving a solid backbone to the song, accenting the parts that are important to the song, keeping the flow of the track etc., and Lars was doing all that pretty reliably, even at ridiculously fast tempos in their live shows. he started showing off a bit on Justice tho, which worked most of the time, but yea sometimes he'd get in the way of others a bit too much.

Album Rating: 5.0

"Knowing that Megadeth's debut and Watchtower's (perhaps even The Spectre Within and Walls of Jericho given the criteria in that quote) already existed a year prior, this statement is patently untrue because that level of intricacy was most certainly heard in this genre by '86 and was arguably done to far more extensive degrees."



i think you're misinterpreting the quote you pulled homie

Album Rating: 5.0

"i think you're misinterpreting the quote you pulled homie"



How so?