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among the few who thought their other stuff was aiight. this one sucked tho for sure

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Lloyd clears up

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From a music theory perspective however, they are extremely solid and that's indisputable.

typical sylosisian

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jst fyi i copy pasted that i absolutely do not think that



whatever that even means

yea i know its that tard with like 6 deftones classic ratings

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let them have their ratings goddammit

let retards be retards agreed

I don't dispute their technical ability, I just don't find anything enjoyable about this band

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so u dont like dem deftones?

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"Knowledge of music theory has absolutely no effect on how "good" or "bad" this band is at songwriting because "good" and "bad" are purely subjective."

You're manipulating my words sir. Nowhere did I use the word "good". You're right, good and bad are subjective.

"What does this even mean?"

I thought it was obvious. Perhaps you can ask me a specific question that regards to your confusion.

I will also reiterate it for you:

Sylosis are extremely knowledgeable about music theory and thus have the tools to create successful music.

You call the band "solid." There's no objectivity in "solid." You can't measure how "solid" a band is. Therefore it is subjective. I used the words "good" and "bad" to replace the words you used for simplicity's sake. Thought that would be pretty easy to understand.

"Theory helps quantify that these guys have song crafting skill."
Not at all. Someone could have absolutely no knowledge of music theory in the slightest, yet they could still create a song that has, what you might believe, "song crafting skill," (i.e. it's "good," a subjective opinion, not fact). Opposing that, someone who is extremely proficient at music theory may write a song with what you could think is "bad" song writing. Again, purely subjective. You can't accurately measure how "good" or "bad" or "solid" a band's song writing ability is because it will inherently be a subjective opinion.

"From a music theory perspective however, they are extremely solid and that's indisputable."
This sentence doesn't make sense anyway. "From a music theory perspective." What do you mean by that? That the band uses scales and chords and tempo changes and key signatures and time signatures? Guess what. Every single piece of music ever can have music theory applied to it.

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Read again, I said the band had "solid" music theory chops.

As I also prefaced in an earlier comment, it's totally cool to not like Sylosis' music. I'm not sure why you're trying to shove me onto the side of calling everyone's opinion invalid. I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions about the things they enjoy/don't enjoy. People's opinions should still be targeted correctly though. I feel this band have many incorrectly targeted opinions about them(especially on this site).

Music theory is a quantifiable skill period. Schools teach it for a reason. You can obviously write a "good" song without music theory knowledge. I never claimed the contrary. Hell, I try all the time to write good music with my limited theory.

Music theory however does unlock more avenues for the musician and will also make them more aware of the different possibilities in music. Often bands with a solid music theory knowledge are also some of the most consistent bands.

An extremely basic example:

A well structured song(part of music theory) will generally be more interesting than a song that infinitely plays a verse.

It's as if you're not even reading my comments. Do you want me to put it in caps so you can understand?
"SOLID" IS A SUBJECTIVE TERM, BASED PURELY ON OPINION.

Never once did I say anything even remotely about "shoving you onto the side of calling everyone's opinion invalid." I seriously think you have comprehension problems because I haven't written anything like that.

"A well structured song(part of music theory) will generally be more interesting than a song that infinitely plays a verse."
How many times do I have to say it? If YOU THINK it is "well structured" that is YOUR OPINION. It IS NOT indisputable. Do you understand now?

I don't think he knows how opinions work.

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Jacquibim if you do not like it, simply do not read. No one is forcing you.

There is no reason for anger tempest, we are simply having a discussion.

I am reading your comments and I believe I am comprehending them.

My comment about opinions being invalid was directed at the overall tone you seem to be giving me. I get this heavy implication from reading your comments, that it's wrong to believe Sylosis can't write good songs. You can believe that if you like, who am I to judge?

Music will always be subjective to a degree but it isn't as grey as you believe. Music theory is based upon principles of psychology. Your structure comment is correct but it ignores my example. I used the example of an infinite verse in comparison to something with more variation.

*You seemed to be caught up what I defined as well structured. The point was something with much more variation.

Psychologically the VAST MAJORITY of humans are drawn towards the more diversely structured song because that is how our brain functions(That's the reality Jacquibim). Music theory is all about that. If what I were saying was not true, music theory wouldn't not be a worthwhile study.

the term "Solid" is slang technically but is in no way subjective. Hell, words have definitions and if you use them incorrectly then you are incorrect. In fact, the slang "solid" is BASED on the real word; The idea of matter being compact and together. There absolutely is nothing subjective about the states of matter. If that still doesn't work for you, use any synonym for solid you want. They'll all try and prove the same point.

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That's just the implication I got.

A-B-A-B-C-B was much more variation than the example I gave. Nothing wrong with A-B-A-B-C-B either! See it plays to many people on a psychological level.

The only reason why it's got so far off from Sylosis is because I feel like everyone attacked my music theory comment without understanding it.

Whether you think i'm wrong or not, Sputnik is a place designed to talk about music. There is no reason for anyone to get upset nor insult anyone just because they have a different stance than you. For that reason, I feel exhausted and I'm done too.

I had a similar discussion with some people because of Nicki Minaj's new album some time ago. I claimed that the album was objectively terrible (very limited musical prowess, tenuous lyrical ability, etc) and my point was that it could only be considered a good album through individual subjectivity. It was only afterwards that I realized I had presented flawed arguments in order to justify my hate for that album. What I now understand is that despite the effort/lack of effort that bands put into their music, what makes it good or bad is just how we perceive it to be and how it plays with our emotions/expectations/personal preferences.

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this thing is still shite

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tremolo picked pinch harmonics