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LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Well okay then Crimson.



Zak, there is plenty of succinct literature on the internet about why peeps like me transition. The short and sweet version is I am woman so there.

Ryus
May 3rd 2014


37329 Comments


aw shit this rules

zakalwe
May 3rd 2014


39218 Comments


Fascinating.

LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

There really doesn't have to be a reason. Not everyone who is born with testes and penis has to grow up to be a man just as not everyone born with a vagina and uterus has to grow up to be a woman. Variation is good.

zakalwe
May 3rd 2014


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I apologise if this comes across as ignorant and insensitive but it just seems incredibly obtuse.
Do you have a menstrul cycle? Will you be able to give birth to a child? Your not a woman. Psychologically you are not a woman unless you have been a woman.
Have corrective surgery and psychologically it makes you feel more like a woman? Your not a woman. You are a bloke who has had his penis inverted and harbours feelings without any experience to base those feelings on.


LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You are free to be a dick; doesn't make you right, though.



Man and Woman are learned states of being. Do not conflate them for Male and Female, there are significant differences.

LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Because humans are unpredictable and topics fluctuate.

Cygnatti
May 3rd 2014


36076 Comments


nothing wrong with curious discussion.

zakalwe
May 3rd 2014


39218 Comments


Exactly cyg. Bringing it back round, album rules.
Anyway lioness, I'm not saying I'm right I just struggle to understand some things in this whacky ride known as life.
Free to be a dick. Nice pun!!

LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I am fine with you not understanding peeps like me and even you getting a bit defensive about what makes a man a man. My point is, bleeding doesn't make the woman, a complex set of everyday factors does.



Yeah, I am going to say it more often. Everyone is free to be a dick. I am secure in my identity. It isn't going to crumble under scrutiny.

Ovrot
May 3rd 2014


13304 Comments


chicks with dicks is m/

tempest--
May 3rd 2014


20634 Comments


damn, what a thread

LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Hey, Lloyd. :D

Solbrave
May 3rd 2014


574 Comments


he was being a dick

tempest--
May 3rd 2014


20634 Comments


hello friend, how's it going? haven't seen you round here in a while!

Curse.
May 3rd 2014


8079 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Zakalwe wasn't being a dick, just someone completely ignorant to the issue

zakalwe
May 3rd 2014


39218 Comments


Cheers dudes, we have to question these things to understand.

Curse.
May 3rd 2014


8079 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You didn't question, you told him that he was wrong without being open to the fact that the issue is more complicated than you make it out to be.



I apologise if this comes across as ignorant and insensitive but it just seems incredibly obtuse.

Do you have a menstrul cycle? Will you be able to give birth to a child? Your not a woman. Psychologically you are not a woman unless you have been a woman.

Have corrective surgery and psychologically it makes you feel more like a woman? Your not a woman. You are a bloke who has had his penis inverted and harbours feelings without any experience to base those feelings on.




nothing about that is questioning, that is being insensitive while not having a true understanding of the issue.

zakalwe
May 3rd 2014


39218 Comments


I didn't tell him he was wrong? I was putting my point forward on 20000000 years of biological empiricism not 150yrs of psychological reasoning. And was asking what it 'is' to desire gender change.
Again apologies if it was a clumsy way of putting it.

LilLioness
May 3rd 2014


3566 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@Lloyd Eh, well, there have been a few issues here and there, but I am trying to stay positive. Also trying to play catch up on music I have missed.



And to answer Futures earlier question about why the conversation went this way, the lack of understanding of queer peeps around these parts is actually a bit annoying (just like the assumption that everyone who pops on here is a dude).



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