Album Rating: 3.5

I mean, I thought Max already developed a more distinct voice on Beneath the Remains that was a good part of the prior albums but that's just me.



"I love metal best when it's pushing boundaries"



Well, this was '93 so you're better off with more alternatives to this. Mods Carve the Pig, Saviour Machine I, Focus, Angels Cry, Nespithe, Above the Light, Transcendence to the Peripheral, Under a Funeral Moon, Diana Read Peace, Thy Mighty Contract, The Outer Limits, Inside the Unreal, etc.

Album Rating: 5.0

This is actually more unique and boundary pushing for the drumming alone, if you said find ten albums that sound really similar to BTR then really a filter for thrash metal and a year range going one year either side of that albums release would bring back somewhat similar stuff.



Something else that sounds like Chaos AD? People will say Vulgar Display of Power and Demanufacture but to me they’re very little alike. So by my definition something that sounds like nothing else at the time has to be groundbreaking to some degree

Album Rating: 3.2

BTR is top 5 thrash ever though.

Album Rating: 5.0

Well this is top 5 metal between 91 and 95 for me



I’m biased though, like I said aged 14 I probably listened to this a hundred times in one year

Album Rating: 3.2

Eh yeah I feel you lol.

Album Rating: 3.5

For '91 through '95? Seriously? The same range of time in which Anacrusis, Secrecy, Coroner, Gorguts, Psychotic Waltz, Sadist, Savatage, Solitude Aeturnus, Angra, Thought Industry, etc. were releasing some of their best material? Not a chance.



I mean, there's "I like this a lot since I listened to it a bunch during the days of my youth" and then there's "top 5 metal".

Album Rating: 5.0

I only owned about 10 CDs by the end of ‘93



Before then I had maybe twenty bitch basic cassettes (Nevermind, Countdown to Extinction, Master of Puppets, Appetite for Destruction, The Real Thing, etc)



I mean I was 12 so what could I do?

Album Rating: 3.5

I'm not saying you should be blamed for that but given the ease of availability these days, there's a variety of different material from that time that is a lot more interesting.

Album Rating: 3.2

Opinions are crazy aren’t they?

Album Rating: 5.0

Casavir - I might like it more but I wouldn’t bet on it. The thing I most like about the best thrash is it retains a punk edge to it - this album also has that by the bucketload.



Technical metal without that same bite I usually won’t like as much.



Still, I am working through the metal archives slowly but surely so you could well be right

Album Rating: 3.5

"Technical metal without that same bite I usually won’t like as much."



Have you heard Thought Industry or Psychotic Waltz? While they're certainly complex, I can see you liking them at least.

Album Rating: 4.0

"Opinions are crazy aren’t they?"

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Album Rating: 5.0

Cheers, I’ll check them

Album Rating: 4.0

"Opinions are crazy aren’t they?"

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I'm still clawing my way through extreme metal which is fun even though hawks hates me

Album Rating: 5.0

‘For '91 through '95? Seriously? The same range of time in which Anacrusis, Secrecy, Coroner, Gorguts, Psychotic Waltz, Sadist, Savatage, Solitude Aeturnus, Angra, Thought Industry, etc. were releasing some of their best material? Not a chance’



Nobody gave a fuck. The collective soul had dug gold in this, vulgar display of power and what have you everything else was wank, hard to get hold of and a waste of time.

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, spinning some Psychotic Waltz and it’s not heavy to me, doesn’t mean it’s bad - but it’s a mix of histrionic heavy metal and some prog leanings. Sounds like Guns n Roses ballads in its softer moments. Lead guitar sound is good most of the time, I’ll give it that.



I’m not saying it’s bad but if metal albums were animals this Sepultura disc would be a butt ugly warthog with blood on its tusks while your psychotic waltz would be a black poodle in a spiky collar with a gaping wound in its shank 🐩



It’s the right colour, it’s ultimately descended from a wolf...but it’s a bit wimpy in reality

Album Rating: 3.5

"Nobody gave a fuck. The collective soul had dug gold in this, vulgar display of power and what have you everything else was wank, hard to get hold of and a waste of time."



You're setting a pretty low bar for what classifies as wank if Vulgar Display and Chaos AD are the threshold one passes by into wank territory.



"Yeah, spinning some Psychotic Waltz and it’s not heavy to me, doesn’t mean it’s bad - but it’s a mix of histrionic heavy metal and some prog leanings. Sounds like Guns n Roses ballads in its softer moments. Lead guitar sound is good most of the time, I’ll give it that."



Well, the band takes inspiration from far more different sources than Sepultura so that is to be expected. What album did you listen to, by the way?

Album Rating: 5.0

Psychotic - ok, could be tough



Waltz - a fucking waltz? Never tough



So it proves

Album Rating: 5.0

Bearing in mind at the time being 13yrs old and ripping Vulgar Display of Power out the ghetto blaster calling it wank before replacing it with psychotic waltz saying “here’s the real deal” would’ve got your teeth knocked out tbh.

Album Rating: 5.0

Cas - you do love your warbly metal, the classic heavy metal.



It worries me you think Chaos AD has anything in common with Psychoyic Waltz? One is tough sounding, full of political bile.



The other sounds like Bruce Dickinson warbling over some chug-a-lug with expressive lead guitar work. I’m hearing words like ‘kings’, ‘masquerades’ and ‘sabbath moons’ - Fantasy widdly woo stuff.



This is Max screaming bloody murder about the corporations destroying his home, murdering prisoners, etc etc.



I dunno dude, I just don’t know. Looking for different things.