At the Gates Slaughter of the Soul
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Trebor.
Emeritus
January 4th 2014


60329 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

thrash wtf



The riffs are really fucking simple on this tho gotta say

Keyblade
January 4th 2014


30810 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

GO!

Tyrael
January 4th 2014


21108 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Who cares



this is a fucking jam

KILL
January 4th 2014


81582 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

simply the best m/

XingKing
January 4th 2014


16338 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

If only Alf had never left the band

Necrotica
January 4th 2014


10693 Comments

Album Rating: 3.8

The album is simple but oh so sweet m/

Spaten
January 4th 2014


235 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I do play guitar and the riffing strikes me as typical melodeath/metalcore riffing. A lot of it is based on alternating between palm muted root notes and high notes which play melodies loosely based on minor scales (not all of them obviously) at a high speed. That's really typical for the aforementioned genres and not that close to thrash. Regarding the vocals, DM mostly uses a low pitched growl. The vocals here are much closer to modern styles of metal.



To me this album doesn't really have any relevance apart from the fact that it inspired a whole lot of awful music.

MoosechriS
January 4th 2014


6353 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

expecting piss to enter any second and nail bomb this entire thread due to his unexplainable hatred for this album

Necrotica
January 4th 2014


10693 Comments

Album Rating: 3.8

Well, I will agree that it inspired a lot of shitty metalcore. But then again, many great bands have inspired shit. Dc Talk is one of my favorite alternative rock bands from the 90s, and look how much shitty Christian Contemporary Music their influence spawned. And look at how influential Pantera were to terrible nu-metal and metalcore.

Spaten
January 4th 2014


235 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I can appreciate a good album that inspired crappy music. Almost every great album has had its poor imitations. But this album wasn't great in the first place which makes its big impact even more unfortunate.

LaughingSkull
January 5th 2014


860 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I do play guitar and the riffing strikes me as typical melodeath/metalcore riffing. A lot of it is based on alternating between palm muted root notes and high notes which play melodies loosely based on minor scales (not all of them obviously) at a high speed. That's really typical for the aforementioned genres and not that close to thrash




I don't know man. When I listen to In Flames and Dark Tranquility, I just don't hear the same groove and force that I hear when listening to ATG. That's why I think of them as entirely detached from melodeath and having their own style.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
January 5th 2014


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

What the fuck

LaughingSkull
January 5th 2014


860 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I do play guitar and the riffing strikes me as typical melodeath/metalcore riffing. A lot of it is based on alternating between palm muted root notes and high notes




But that's very typical for all types of metal. Metallica does this (Master of Puppets intro), Slayer does this (Spirit in Black, Black Magic), Judas Priest does this (Painkiller, The Hellion), Death does this (Lack of Comprehension), etc. Your argument doesn't really stand.

demigod!
January 5th 2014


49662 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

the difference is that those bands don't ride that sound for an entire LP or even song in most cases

Spaten
January 5th 2014


235 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

What demigod said is true.



Also you ignored the second half of my sentence. If you take a look at the Master of Puppets intro for example you notice it is obviously based on chromaticism. It's a really straightforward riff but it is effective. The main difference between the riffing styles of the bands you mentioned and the riffs on Slaughter of the Soul is that bands like Slayer or Metallica based their riffs on clear and distinct motifs. Again, oftentimes they were very simple, but still, or maybe just because of this, they were effective. You hear the black magic intro once and it's stuck in your head. They then use variations of those simple motifs and melodies in other riffs to create an organized song. Organization is really what metal song writing is all about.



The riffs on SotS however often aren't based on straightforward motifs but they have a lot of notes crammed in them and the gaps are filled with palm muted root notes. Because of this the underlying melodies and motifs (or lack thereof) get obscured. As a consequnce the song writing suffers, because it relies on riffs which are flashy on the surface but oftentimes vacuous in context of the whole song.

LaughingSkull
January 8th 2014


860 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Can't really agree with you man. You can nitpick on a lot of genres that way. For example, a lot of black metal revolves around tremolo picking various chords. And a lot of thrash/death metal is about very fast sixteenths on the low E (or whatever tuning) string. It seems to me like you're finding it hard to find a real reason to dislike the album, so you're conjuring up weak arguments instead.

pissbore
January 8th 2014


12778 Comments


there is a whole lot more to dislike about this album besides the fact that it inspired countless hordes of terrible music

the drop in quality from wfiktbd to this is unfathomable and for people who are huge fans of their early material its borderline offensive

lovelybloodflow
January 8th 2014


104 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

this album killed the integrity and creativity of both metal and core alike.

pissbore
January 8th 2014


12778 Comments


album lowered the bar to lows it's never raised up from

LaughingSkull
January 8th 2014


860 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

the drop in quality from wfiktbd to this is unfathomable and for people who are huge fans of their early material its borderline offensive




Early ATG is unlistenable. I don't care how sophisticated, complex, deep and philosophical the song structures are. They simply don't work and are unlistenable. The guys are simply refusing to play their instruments straight. Some people find charm in that and I guess that's OK. But SotS also has charm, even if it lies in how streamlined the album is. Besides, do you really want more of the same? Appreciate the band for its diversity.

On SotS spawning many imitators.... Well, the fact that bands tried to imitate it means that it set a standard. Seriously, don't be a neckbeard and moan because your fav band achieved well-deserved fame. (or infamy)



Again, I repeat my argument from the review: See the hypocrisy: Reign in Blood also inspired a lot of shit bands, but it's "FUCKING SLAYER!11!", so no one protests against that.



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