Atreyu A Death-Grip on Yesterday
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labonza01
May 7th 2006


546 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

interesting claim, funny, but interesting. anyway, i just have to know what a popular guitar sounds like. i actually love this album, and when i listen to it, i feel neither edgy, nor rebellious, i feel like im listening to good music.

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


i just have to know what a popular guitar sounds like.


I would, but I somehow doubt you want another essay. The problem is, it sounds like you're looking at this through a very narrow perspective of definitions. Trying to define the sound of a particular instrument within a genre is a rather nebulous concept. Unless you want a vague generalization, better known as a stereotype.

In some cases, it's a little easier. Death metal drummers tend to use blast beats.

Other times, you have a genre like pop which is so nebulous it boggles the mind. Pop is one of the most diverse genres of all, making it nigh impossible to create an archetypal pop sound for a specific instrument.

when i listen to it, i feel neither edgy, nor rebellious, i feel like im listening to good music.


Aside from the fact that there's no accounting for taste, I don't think you quite got the point either when I was describing marketing.This Message Edited On 05.07.06

labonza01
May 7th 2006


546 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i think you might have misunderstood the popular guitar thing, i just got that out of 2 previous comments and decided to have a good laugh out of it. as for the marketing, i've yet to see a commercial or music video from this album, so that explains the whole me misunderstanding your motive.

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

WTF steerpike... get the fuk outa here with ur big proper grammer lectures about how much atreyu sux.

U say atreyu is pop, thay are definently not popular.... i never see them on mtv, mtv2, or fuse.. i never hear people talking about them at school either(dont even say its because they suck) so get the fuk outa here!!!!!!

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


i think you might have misunderstood the popular guitar thing, i just got that out of 2 previous comments and decided to have a good laugh out of it.


Thanks for clearing that up.

as for the marketing, i've yet to see a commercial or music video from this album,


Consider yourself lucky. They're quite nauseating.

WTF steerpike... get the fuk outa here with ur big proper grammer lectures about how much atreyu sux.

U say atreyu is pop, thay are definently not popular.... i never see them on mtv, mtv2, or fuse.. i never hear people talking about them at school either(dont even say its because they suck) so get the fuk outa here!!!!!!


Is he serious or not? I can't tell.This Message Edited On 05.07.06

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


The reason they have only Brandon singing is because it makes the commercials more accessible. Atreyu's catchiest melodies and hooks are all in the choruses. Exactly like a pop song.

Now, there are other genres that have big, sing-along choruses. But Atreyu doesn't qualify for any of them. They're certainly not power metal, for example.

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

thats the most u see of atreyu on tv though..just that commercial

Storm In A Teacup
May 7th 2006


47085 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This is a really cheesey album.

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

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how do u make that high pitch noise with the top string?



this is right side of the bed

Bron-Yr-Aur
May 7th 2006


4405 Comments


I really hate this band. You know what? I kind of enjoy it when people come on here and act like it's a chatroom. Get to take people down a notch.

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


thats the most u see of atreyu on tv though..just that commercial


They're featured in a couple of Victory Records commerials, have a couple of music videos that get on Headbanger's Ball, and have several magazine ads and a sponsorship from Hot Topic.

They don't saturate the media with the images, because they know the target audience isn't that stupid. They have to market them as if they're a counterculture phenomenon, which requires a much more subtle touch.

how do u make that high pitch noise with the top string?

this is right side of the bed


I believe that's the tuning Collective Soul uses. Just thought I'd mention it.

And I don't remember how the song goes, but I think you thinking of a pinch harmonic.This Message Edited On 05.07.06

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yes how do u do pinch harmonics?

Storm In A Teacup
May 7th 2006


47085 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Pluck a string with your thumb right after you use the pick, I think.

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


There's a lesson or two on the sites somewhere. You brush the string with your thumb or finger as soon as you pick it. You have to experiment a bit to get the touch right and find the sweet spot on the string.

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

They have to market them as if they're a counterculture phenomenon, which requires a much more subtle touch.





i have no idea what u just said

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

ive tried that...it dont seem to work

Bron-Yr-Aur
May 7th 2006


4405 Comments


You wouldn't have an idea, would you? As for the pinch harmonics, it takes practice.

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


i have no idea what u just said


Counterculture is made up of the scenes, cultures, groups, and attitudes that operate outside of the mainstream, but manage to maintain a very healthy presence through grassroots organization. Independent film has a lot of counterculture around it. Goth is a counterculture. Until Jackass came along, skating used to be a counterculture.

Atreyu, with their lead singer using harsh vocals (badly), and writing with melodramatic themes and overtones makes it seem as if the band came from one of these counterculture scenes. And people have a fascination with counterculture because people in those scenes know that the key to being cool is to do things differently and memorably.

Atreyu perhaps fancied themselves a counterculture band at one point. I don't know. But Victory Records scooped them up, realizing that with proper marketing, they could dupe a lot of people into thinking they were edgy by listening to this band. However, Victory Records are some of the most soulless media whores on the planet, so...

ive tried that...it dont seem to work


Try extracting a pinch harmonic from the D-string from the second fret. Distortion also is a necessity.This Message Edited On 05.07.06

rdn008
May 7th 2006


24 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

are you a genius?

Steerpike
May 7th 2006


1861 Comments


Yes.



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