Absolute garbage. I've never heard anything pre-In Abesntia (besides the painful On the Sunday of Life) and I don't think I will be exploring any further.

With the exception of my opinion on this album, I agree with you Wizard. I've always considered the later PT years better. I can't say I've ever understood the hype behind Up the Downstair. It's good, but there's so much better psychedelic music out there

@Wiz: I'd say it's worth at least trying some early PT (The Sky Moves Sideways, Up the Downstair etc.) cos I pretty much agree with you about this album/era yet I enjoy their early material (besides Sunday) a lot.

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't understand why he says he's never heard anything pre-In Absentia. I guess he meant besides

this album (and sunday)?



Anyway, just wanted to say i agree with everyone saying that new PT much better than psych PT. Up the

downstair is very boring stuff

Album Rating: 2.5

The Sky Moves Sideways is tasty stuff though

@Emyay: Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying.

Different tastes bro, Downstair isn't boring at all to me, at least not in comparison to most of their material.

Album Rating: 4.0

Everything besides Sunday is awesome. The Incident is certainly one of their weaker albums though.

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, I agree but it does have some great songs on it at least

Album Rating: 4.0

I have it at a 3.5 so yea there's some awesome stuff on it. Just seems underwhelming and kind of unfinished considering how sort lots of the songs are.

Album Rating: 5.0

Never understood the hate for Sunday. It has too much filler for sure but it has some great tracks and

it's a fun listen if you don't take it seriously. The Incident just flat out sucks aside from a couple

of tracks at most and I'd rather listen to Karma/Altamont material than that album

Album Rating: 2.5

I gave it the same rating. Probably a 3.3/5 for me ideally. Octane Twisted all the way to I Drive The Hearse are perfect but sadly i have to put up with shit like Drawing The Line before I get to that part if i listen to the whole thing

Album Rating: 3.5

Sunday - Boring

Up the Downstair - Rules

Sky Moves - Awesome as all hell

Signify - Rules

Stupid Dream - Awesome as all hell [2]

Lightbulb Sun - Great, albeit inconsistent

In Absentia - Dull and lifeless

Deadwing - Some crazy good moments but lacking in memorability

Fear of a Blank Planet - Sucks

The Incident - Intolerable

Album Rating: 4.0

IA is not lifeless lol

Album Rating: 4.0

If anything Deadwing is lifeless.

Album Rating: 2.5

Damn. Deadwing and In Absentia are the best. I thought Signify, for the most part, was pretty forgettable. However Waiting phase 1 & 2 followed by Sever is incredible

Album Rating: 4.5

FOABP rules

Album Rating: 3.5

I am warming to Deadwing quite a bit lately, IA still isn't doing much for me tbh.

Album Rating: 2.5

Deadwing is probably my favourite album of all time and is bloody amazing.



As for IA, I think that would have been a great starting point for PT, but if you heard Lightbulb Sun or Stupid Dream first, I think IA can come off as boring

Album Rating: 4.0

Deadwing was the first PT i got into, maybe just played it out but i can hardly stand listening to it anymore. Lyrically it's SW's worst album imo and that's saying something!

Album Rating: 2.5

Arriving Somewhere has great lyrics. That's it really... SW isn't particularly a great lyricist in the first place

Album Rating: 4.0

Lazarus, Deadwing and Open Car are cringe worthy but so is a lot of SW.