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Piglet
July 23rd 2012


8559 Comments


i want slippery butts

Inveigh
July 23rd 2012


27027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I get what DuMont is saying but



but I think it can be better defined as rap which tends towards more white middle class sensibilities




people act like this doesn't apply to rap like Lil B, A$AP Rocky, Odd Future etc. Not that I don't dig some of that stuff too (I like Main Attrakionz, Earl, Clams and a few others), but we shouldn't pretend that suburban white kids driving their parents' SUVs are listening to that just as much if not more than El-P, Atmosphere and the like.

DuMont
July 23rd 2012


84 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

You're right, colour doesn't mean shit, but it would be equally non-sensical to have complete disregard for the cultural meanings in those types of music. The phrase "white person rap" has come about because hip-hop is a genre which was founded almost entirely by black lyricists and producers and for years exclusively dealt with African-American centric issues - some rap is seen as a step too far away from this and some people aren't comfortable with what they see as hip-hop being co-opted to send completely different cultural messages.



Killer Mike's title of his latest LP illustrates this - in an interview he explained that the "R.A.P" in "R.A.P Music" stands for Rebellious African People. Some people prefer hip-hop that adheres more strictly to this - personally I enjoy the variation.



Inveigh I agree with you as well, which is why the colour distinction is a total misfire.

kingsoby1
Emeritus
July 23rd 2012


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

No its fine

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
July 23rd 2012


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I hate people who called Rap a genre. Rap is just the spoken word, Hip Hop is the amalgam of the beats and spoken words. It's like calling Death Metal 'Tremolo picking, blast beats and growls'



Try not to lose any sleep over it.

Aids
July 23rd 2012


24930 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

DuMont speaking truth in this thread



i tend to love the "white-person rap" thing though, go figure



i still need to hear this but my expectations are sky-high

Inveigh
July 23rd 2012


27027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The phrase "white person rap" has come about because hip-hop is a genre which was founded almost entirely by black lyricists and producers and for years exclusively dealt with African-American centric issues




again, I get where you're coming from to a certain extent. but by that line of thinking, The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin were just "white person blues." Dave Brubek was just "white person jazz." Sublime and Slightly Stoopid are "white person reggae," and on and on...



basically what i'm trying to say is... black people invented all music

Wolfhorde
July 23rd 2012


15387 Comments


So.. where's the "Black Person Classical", "Black Person Death/Thrash/Black/Doom Metal", "Black Person Indie", "Black Person Folk" ...[..]..

Polymath
July 23rd 2012


3836 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This is a decent album.

chambered49
July 23rd 2012


1727 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

what he said

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
July 23rd 2012


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

downers

kingsoby1
Emeritus
July 23rd 2012


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

you know i get down i'm a downer heart pounder lolin' smellin like sarin

sloppy777
July 23rd 2012


22 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I listened to "Look At What The Cat Did" and the song with Aesop and I like it a lot, production is really impressive. How have I not heard them before? Damn lol

DuMont
July 23rd 2012


84 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

@Inveigh: I agree with you, I wasn't defending the phrase, just saying why I think it has come about. As I said it's not a useful or accurate description at all.



Still don't dig this as much as Vessel, do really like it though

Inveigh
July 23rd 2012


27027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

word. yea I think I came off overly confrontational (which tends to happen when I'm discussing/debating music), though it was certainly not my intention.



I just hate the mindset expressed earlier in this thread (not by you DuMont) that hip hop like this isn't legitimate because a lot of white people listen to it. It's just like the idiots that dismiss any rap they don't view as "conscious"

Spec
July 23rd 2012


41432 Comments


This is really good so far.

kitsch
July 24th 2012


5117 Comments


the exact text of this review is the description for the torrent on waffles lol

kingsoby1
Emeritus
July 24th 2012


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I guess it was only a matter of time before everything started being pirated.



Just got some dts for my stress in the mail today on wax :]

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
July 24th 2012


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Haven't received mine yet. Did you get a signed copy of their first single?

LifeAsAChipmunk
July 24th 2012


4852 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"so he goes and gets the whitest fuck in the game to produce the entire album..."



Not to mention the fact that Mike was featured on the white fuck's album multiple times.



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