Sleep Token Take Me Back to Eden
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Koris
Emeritus
May 28th 2023


22631 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"Dude Ectier I get it, it's just exactly what a lot of detractors I've seen not on sputnik say about this project. Literally go into any metal group on social media that's had Sleep Token discourse and you'll see dozens of people complain that they "aren't metal enough" and shouldn't be talked about."



I hate to burst your bubble, but that discourse will never go away. Every decade or so, there's a new band that becomes the metal scene's punching bag for not being metal enough. In the 2000s it was Avenged Sevenfold (among others of course), in the 2010s it was Ghost, and now it's Sleep Token. Elitists will always be elitists... and while that doesn't make it right, it just is what it is

Calc
Contributing Reviewer
May 28th 2023


18058 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

wait venin is or isn't snide?

Kusangii
May 28th 2023


8533 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

What was that band in the 90s @Koris?

JohnnyoftheWell
May 28th 2023


64287 Comments


deathbat come back when you have consumed tentenko's entire discography and then we'll talk

veninblazer
May 28th 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

@koris: that's...annoying as shit. especially since some bands in the scene literally tried too hard to please the purists and ended up losing their identity at least for an album as a result. (*cough*screamaimfire*cough)

"wait venin is or isn't snide?"

i've worked with him on stuff but he and i are distinctly different people - i know it's impossible for you guys to think people into the music i am aren't snide alts though so i get it

@johnny: i just checked... 13 albums and only two of them are even on streaming. welp, guess i'm going to jail for you :^) also for the love of christ do I have to rip apart life is but a dream when it drops for you to stop calling me that

Koris
Emeritus
May 28th 2023


22631 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"What was that band in the 90s @Koris?"



The narrative around this has changed now, but back then, I'd be inclined to say Alice in Chains. They kept getting opening slots for thrash and trad metal shows, and got a lot of hostile responses for being out of place among the other bands

DadKungFu
Emeritus
May 28th 2023


6144 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"The narrative around this has changed now, but back then, I'd be inclined to say Alice in Chains."



Not Bush?

JohnnyoftheWell
May 28th 2023


64287 Comments


"13 albums and only two of them are even on streaming"
this just the tip of the iceberg and you are gonna have to use a combination of bandcamp and rym to get to that finish line. my review history will cover the first 2ish years but then you're own my own

Koris
Emeritus
May 28th 2023


22631 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"Not Bush?"



To clarify, the reason I'm picking AiC is because they were getting more of a metal push than the other grunge bands during that time, so promoters were actively trying to market them in that direction. Which is why they got shit on by so many metalheads, basically for not "staying in their lane". And, as we've seen with other bands like Ghost and A7X, it forms a bit of a pattern among elitsts

veninblazer
May 28th 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

@johnny: for sure. if it means you'll let my dead alias stay dead i'll do it.

Calc
Contributing Reviewer
May 28th 2023


18058 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"i've worked with him on stuff but he and i are distinctly different people - i know it's impossible for you guys to think people into the music i am aren't snide alts though so i get it"



I'm even less sure now..

veninblazer
May 28th 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"I'm even less sure now.." i'm considerably younger, don't fangirl over MGK (meh artist and I don't like the deep timbre to his voice)/BVB (they're good but not a top fav), and i have a completely different project that you would likely never mistake for Snide's projects.

Oh, and I don't fuck with AI art.

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
May 29th 2023


18452 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Ugh.

veninblazer
May 29th 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Nah Calc cracked the code, all emo kids are just clones of Snide now :^)

Ecnalzen
May 29th 2023


12169 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Didn't Cynic also get shat on pretty hard in the 90s cuz they kept getting put on tour with death metal bands due to poor marketing since nobody knew what to do with them or something like that

veninblazer
May 29th 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

and the 80s it was the entire subgenre of glam.

tbf guns n roses probably deserved it

Koris
Emeritus
May 29th 2023


22631 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Cynic definitely got a lot of shit back then, and it was basically the reason for their initial breakup



"tbf guns n roses probably deserved it"



Well yeah, GnR are trash ;]

veninblazer
May 29th 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I tolerate Crue and Poison more than I do GnR tbh

MoM
May 29th 2023


5994 Comments


Are these guys the Creed of core yet?

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
May 29th 2023


18452 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Poor Creed.



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