Album Rating: 4.5

ctrl + f lord huron long lost 0/0



ctrl + f father john misty i love you, honeybear 0/0



pet sounds - not rated until this year



vespertine - only 5d it for the anniversary



safe to say you don't know shit about strings sorry

send me your own string arrangements and klezmer ratings, and then we'll talk
fjm and huron are both glowing examples of artists who never graduated from youtube plays to sput ratings

their new song legit sounded like Imagine Dragons or like Lumineers or something lmao, those uber corny "uplifting" background yelps are hilarious

I love you Row but the hills you choose to die on are weird

Album Rating: 4.7

lmao seems like you're just picking random targets lately and committing super hard to hating obviously good music but sure



how many Imagine Dragons songs use samples of Maori indigenous music, out of curiosity

what is "obviously good music"

Album Rating: 2.5

shit band yeah

big up to every cornball ever to use indigenous music to fill a *arbitrary backing vocals go here* slot while he ooos and errrrrs over uh how do i become my own man what do i do with this big ol hurty heart wow yeah keep em coming

Album Rating: 4.7

shut the fuck up please [2]

takes me back to when younger me thought it was a good idea to use a very epic heartcinemafying MLK sample to round off a post-mathprog epic phwoar boi there's a good reason none of you fuckers will ever hear that one
rowan you're far enough down that hole, here's an extra shovel

Album Rating: 2.5

'big up to every cornball ever to use indigenous music to fill a *arbitrary backing vocals go here* slot while he ooos and errrrrs over uh how do i become my own man what do i do with this big ol hurty heart wow yeah keep em coming'



comment made my day lmao

Album Rating: 3.5

owee my big ol hurty heart poor me my dad died guess ill appropriate indigenous (???) music as a tribute to him and his roots and his wishes for me to reconnect with my family and culture.

(...I get not digging the aesthetic or whatever, and of course not liking the song, but this, like, personal, non-musical judgement of Le’aupepe himself for such an un-offensive choice is really bizarre to me.)

Album Rating: 4.7

goddamn y'all fucking boring lmao, used to be fun here when the site was imploding every 2 days, these days I could just set up a bot site that loops "shit band" "hurr imagine dragons" "epic comment" and it would have more variety than this shithole



bold to assume johnny has done literally any research on a band with no connection to k-pop

tbqh i don't care either way for the incorporation of those vocals or Troubled Man's personal claim to their broader heritage but
"how many Imagine Dragons songs use samples of Maori indigenous music, out of curiosity"
resorting to exoticising them as a novelty substitute for an argument over whether the song is in fact any good is a cheap heck of a copout and deserves as many sympathetic pouts as can be thrown at it
and seeing as this thread is a generous quotient spicier than the song itself, that is most cert the battle imma pick here

Album Rating: 3.5

'resorting to exoticising them as a novelty substitute for an argument over whether the song is in fact any good is a cheap heck of a copout and deserves as many sympathetic pouts as can be thrown at it'

I'm not Rowan, obviously, but that doesn't seem like what he was doing. He was responding to the 'uber corny "uplifting" background yelps are hilarious' comment, which is... a weird comment (and, I think, probably disrespectful, if said w/ knowledge of context; or overly cynical w/o said context), and is itself... not a good argument for why the song is bad. Not that it has to be.

I mean, bad last two pages in general if the metric is sound analysis of music. I don't really understand the problem with meeting cynical, dismissive comments with equally cynical, dismissive retorts, which you too are doing ofc and is the Sputnik way.

And then I regret leaving a useless comment about cute boys being, yes, very spicy.

Album Rating: 2.5

Lyrics can't carry an album, agreed.

i'm sorry sir blushful, but [candid visor down], like, i wouldn't criticise those vocals by the same brush in and of themselves, but just as the song is corny so too is their *incorporation*. the real argument here [were it heaven forbid to be about the music] would be over whether or not they play a role within the song that scratches any noteworthy itches without the aid of personal or cultural tie-ins (i would say not really; as you said, they're an inoffensive component [of a rather derivative heartstringland rock song]), whereas rowan's argument makes the Discourse contingent on their otherwise-not-hugely-conspicuous heritage and not, uh, the rather innocuous way they actually play out.
this does not sit comfortably with me because imo those voices are not rly a viable bantering chip to bring into this otherwise wonderful meeting of
"cynical, dismissive comments with equally cynical, dismissive retorts"
which i love! but maybe i wouldn't love if i were in the squishy position of trying to talk up the new track in good faith while also laying it down cheap for the boiz. don't cross those wires kiddo

Album Rating: 5.0

WOT

don't shit where u eat fren

Album Rating: 3.5

I get that. I think what I like about their incorporation is that they do sit pretty innocuously in the background, whereas in the last single 'unison', similar samples helped form the actual climax of the song. Like there, they're pretty important texturally -- production-wise, I think they add a lot of colour. But here, they're like this soft, incessant, unignorable hum. Which feels thematically significant in a song about the hole/vacuum left by the loss of a person (whose 'presence' or memory or whatever feels adequately represented by those samples). It also tracks really well with the way the band have been eschewing the longer, grander arena rock stuff for this kind of to-the-point, heart-on-sleeve type, yes, derivative heartstringland rock song. Damn good derivative heartstringland rock song but!!!

The heritage argument isn't one I really care about, either, but I don't think it's just context. I think it ties in nicely with what this song and what the last EP and what I assume the album will be doing -- thematically, but also musically. I don't read 'uplifting' from the samples, I guess. Definitely, like, comfort, and I think they're... propulsive in an interesting way. But I don't think they're designed to evoke any kind of exoticism. In fact I think they're almost matter-of-fact in the way they're used? Very lacking in histrionics? I don't know, I'm tired.

Album Rating: 3.5

Not that that really addresses the conflict of the discourse or whatever. I am, uh, conflict-averse, and we should probably all just kiss instead.