"Any particular Enslaved album, Hyperion?"

vertebrae is the best prog metal album so that one in particular, but albums like monumension and below the lights are probably a better comparison. and i think urjotun from utgarde is exactly what this album was trying to do just much more cohesive.

"If the argument is that another band did prog + some other metal genre better than BI did with prog + DM then you're making an adjacent comparison rather than a 1:1 that better highlights what BI did wrong."

the problem is that everything they tried to copy from is better than what they present on this album. tangerine dream is better than the tangerine dream parts on this album. pink floyd is better than the pink floyd parts on this album. can is better than the can parts on this album. the death metal on countless other death metal albums is better than the death metal parts on this album.

i dont think they should get extra points just for smashing all that together in a way that doesnt entirely work.

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

>mixing genres with soundscapes that are hard to generate a comparison for or against



this is trv even the proggiest prog metal band doesnt usually completely abandon any metal element for extended periods of time

Eh this is good and fun. It's that second part that a lot of death metal is lacking. I appreciate having some death metal that doesn't require a shower after listening.

Album Rating: 4.5

Death metal but COSMIC



What's not to love?

Album Rating: 4.0

"i dont think they should get extra points just for smashing all that together in a way that doesnt entirely work."

The ins-and-outs don't really matter to me... they get extra points for simply making a highly entertaining album, whereby (and this seems to be a genuinely shared experience, from what I've read) they make the 40 minute runtime fucking fly by.

Extra points--and all the points for that alone.

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't think it's AS mind-blowing as the reception would lead you to believe, but I still bought a record and t-shirt and continue to listen to it, so yeah I dig what they did. Despite its flaws it's entertaining.

i certainly dont think its a bad album i just dont think it does what it set out to do all that successfully.

Album Rating: 3.9

Music aside, this discussion has been a blast to read. A high point of post-Sput culture, I'd say.

Album Rating: 4.5

Imagine people in the 1700s complaining that there are abrupt changes in sonata forms



Man, the pianist would even stop playing in between parts, such poor compositional skills from these nobodies back then

Album Rating: 4.0

It's much more compositionally challenging and impressive to tie two seemingly unrelated parts together seamlessly with a creative transition. The problem for me is how many times they rely on abrupt changes not the fact that they exist on this record.

Album Rating: 3.0

I’m not usually a fan of raw production in death metal, but I probably enjoyed this album more than any other in that style. The proggy sections definitely peak my interest a bit.

Album Rating: 4.9

RAW PRODUCTION LMAO

Album Rating: 3.0

Raw relative to what I'm used to in death metal, which is Archspire esque stuff

Album Rating: 4.9

Ok Tundra I'm done fucking with you. Glad you dig this.

Album Rating: 3.9

Christmas miracle moment 2024.

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

tundra cheq Nihilist rn lol

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

wow its like beethoven didnt have all the advantages of electricity

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

or hearing

Album Rating: 5.0

"i dont think they should get extra points just for smashing all that together in a way that doesnt entirely work."



Juxtaposition is so clearly a BI compositional choice (already seen on their previous EP, although better integrated here) that it's equally a choice to ignore it or claim it doesn't work. I mean, given the audience it's obtained, I'd say it's working very well.

album is culture agreed