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BigPleb
February 15th 2018


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The reds on fire last night, no-one is better than us on the counter.



Just need to sort that defence out and we're golden.

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'watered-down radio rock with all the hard edges sanded off'



I'd say this album is closer to fitting that description than 'Nevermind' actually

Rowan5215
Emeritus
February 15th 2018


48447 Comments

Album Rating: 3.9

nah this one has halfway decent emotion and storytelling poured into it



and Vedder can actually........ sing

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'nevermind is the weakest nirvana'



You can say that, but just realise that's a statement as perverse as saying 'Funeral' is the weakest Arcade Fire - or 'Dark Side' is the weakest Pink Floyd.



It's fine to say it, believe it even, but you do come off a bit of a loon. Not that we should be against having the occasional loony opinions.



But it is a loony opinion.

BigPleb
February 15th 2018


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Funeral is pretty rubbish, Neon Bible is better.



Dark Side is amazing, but Animals is better.



All hail loopy opinions m/

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Row, I hate to break this to you, but I don't think Vedder and Cobain were aiming for the same sort of vocals.



Cobain is from the same sort of line as the dude from The Replacements, Mark Arm and Black Francis, compared to any of those his vocals are easily as good, better tbh

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Pleb - I see you definitively NOT saying either of those abums is the WORST by the band in question.



That is dipping a small toe into the bucket labelled loon - saying Nevermind is the WEAKEST Nirvana is a full on plunge.

BigPleb
February 15th 2018


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Hahah so I've not gone full on loon just yet.





Rowan5215
Emeritus
February 15th 2018


48447 Comments

Album Rating: 3.9

thanks for telling me what I'm allowed to believe and say, ppreciate it



Nirvana fans - the gaslighting husband of the music community, holding the rest of us at gunpoint until we put on the nostalgia goggles

zakalwe
February 15th 2018


42013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Arcade Fire are shite

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

That may be so...but is Funeral the most shite?

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I’d also say Cobain is a more interesting and uncanny lyricist than Vedder, def not the Ved’s strong suit in general



No way Kurt was influenced primarily by AIC - Nirvana predate them anyway. Mudhoney, The Replacements, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Husker Du, The Raincoats, etc then yes.



AIC at the time were more for metal heads and started touring with Metallica - very different vibe to Nirvana.

BigPleb
February 15th 2018


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Pixies mainly, he cited them a few times on interviews as a huge inspiration.

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I think when you are around at the time it’s obvious which bands are doing what and how big they are but looking back everything distorts.



AIC were such a smaller concern to Nirvana - it’s like comparing Oasis with The Verve. Pearl Jam would be Blur size in that analogy.



Nirvana were bigger than Oasis, bigger than R.E.M - that’s the scale. Absolutely huge band. Nothing has been as big since and nothing close for over 20 years, there is no 2018 equivalent.

Egarran
February 15th 2018


36867 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Not as huge as Shania Twain or Metallica though.

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

They shit Shania



They twat Twain

Egarran
February 15th 2018


36867 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Shania sold 39 million records, Nirvana sold 30. You're out of your depth here, doof.



Here is a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums

DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

She’s been around donkeys and she sells albums in service stations



It’s not all album sales, part of size is tangible, some less so



No one ever said Shania is the biggest/most important act in the world - at the time Nirvana were. They were a phenomena, legendary live for sure, and very short lived with a massive impact. Like Guns n Roses but even more so.



Metallica their moment lasted longer, was never as intense, and their appeal was more niche.



Nirvana were as populist as Elvis and The Beatles - Shania and Metallica just aren’t. No one outside America really gives a shit about Shania as a household name.



DoofusWainwright
February 15th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It’s because there aren’t ‘biggest bands in the world’ now that the concept can be hard for people to grasp.



At the time it’s clear as day. Metallica’s big popular moment was the black album. It was absolutely dwarfed by Nevermind and Nirvana in general.

Egarran
February 15th 2018


36867 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Nirvana were as populist as Elvis and The Beatles - Shania and Metallica just aren’t. "



It's fine to say it, believe it even, but you do come off a bit of a loon.



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