Periphery Periphery V: Djent Is Not a Genre
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Purpl3Spartan
March 27th 2023


9526 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAbu2d9xXMY

NudeTayne
March 27th 2023


2435 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"I gave heavener a shot, I know it's technically *good* but just didn't feel like anything new to me. They're definitely in the minutia of good metalcore bands these days but that's also not a high bar. Nothing on that album made me go "wow holy shit""



Nothing that band does is different from anything I've heard come from Spiritbox. Spiritbox has changed the game with Eternal Blue.

kalkwiese
March 27th 2023


11054 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Eternal Blue was a nice little djent burger, agreed

NudeTayne
March 27th 2023


2435 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Great album but its success sets a whole new precedent for what people enjoy from this groove-heavy, low-tuned sound. It's the new meta. Periphery has ignored it and I love that for them.

AnimalsAsSummit
March 28th 2023


6202 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Trust me, I used to djent; then all the bands got bought by amp/ guitar companies and can’t create anything original to save their life now.

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
March 28th 2023


19075 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

lmaoooo ngl kinda spitting facts there



i think its great that people in this scene can make a pretty alright living while playing extremely niche music... but everyone being endorsed by and having signature guitars/amps/pedals from the same half dozen companies does make for a rather homogenized sound



even misha himself kinda acknowledges he's more businessman than musician at this point



fucking love the early djent stuff but the only current day bands i really care about at this point are periphery and erra (and i guess contortionist if they ever drop new music again)

peartnoy
March 28th 2023


2442 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The Contortionist hasn't been anywhere near a Djent band for a while now though.

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
March 28th 2023


19075 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah you're totally right, i'm kinda grasping at straws cause like there really isn't anyone



vildhjarta i guess? tho i feel like they barely count cause of the near decade of inactivity

onionbubs
March 28th 2023


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

most everything i dig on the djenty side is not even really full on djent its progcore like invent animate, erra, old northlane, etc. stuff that co-opts some influence but is still more riffy and lead driven. dig all those bands more than periphery but like periphery are playing to different more proggy songwriting conventions as theyre not a metalcore band, which is the appeal of them for many (also i do still dig them lol). i dont really jam a lot of full on djent outside of volumes



i also dont really expect innovation within the style itself lol i just jam it because its fun. as long as the band themselves is growing and moving themselves forward from where they were before i dont need them to reinvent the game entirely

pourradass
March 28th 2023


1054 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

To 4 or not to 4 this... having listened to all other P albums in the past few weeks, honestly the highs on this are higher than everything bar P4.

But that Silhouette - Star - Zagreus combo really rubs me the wrong way.



I'm going to give this a 4 but let it be known it's a low 4

onionbubs
March 28th 2023


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

damn zagreus is one of the only songs here thats really stayed w me

pourradass
March 28th 2023


1054 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's not bad but would have benefited from not being right after these 2.

I'd remove Dying Star entirely, swap Nobuo with Wax Wings (providing an emotional closer) and this already breathes better

onionbubs
March 28th 2023


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i dont love dying star but id drop nobuo and silhouette before it. nobuo has some good moments but its def their worst closer for me, and silhouettes last minute and a half is just painful to listen to lmao the vocal effects on that song get absolutely dreadful the further that song goes on



feel like zagreus could have made an alright closer if it didnt have the bullshit outro it doesnt need

Tundra
March 28th 2023


10756 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

The Contortionist are still djent. Early Grave is a djent song. Clairvoyant had polyrhythms everywhere, if you want to call it math metal then go ahead, but math metal and djent have been retconned as the same thing.

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
March 28th 2023


19075 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"i also dont really expect innovation within the style itself"



i don't think animals is referring to innovation as much as just the bands sounding unique from eachother... which i'd say was true pre-2012ish but has been becoming increasingly homogenized since.



even with periphery i feel like the only thing that separates them from the rest of the bands (besides merely being the poster boys of the genre) is spencer just being a better/more distinct vocalist than most of these bands have and to an increasingly lesser extent mark's crazy riffs. and they write songs longer than 4-5 minutes and are a bit more eclectic tract-to-track i guess

onionbubs
March 28th 2023


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i mean like to each their own but i still def dont think every band today sounds the same lol

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
March 28th 2023


19075 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

they don't sound exactly the same but like... i think whatever is considered the mount rushmore of djent in the 2020s so far sounds way more similar to eachother than say periphery 1, exoplanet, tesseract's debut, and discoveries sound to each other



there's just sort of a framework for the sound today that didn't entirely exist a decade ago (inb4 someone replies "meshuggah")... like a lot of the bands started from a completely different angle and the proceeding wave of bands who came up are closer and closer to the middle/typically more periphery-northlane side of the spectrum



guess i also just differ in that i see "prog-core" as basically what djent is at this point, rather than two separate and distinct things.

onionbubs
March 28th 2023


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"closer to the middle/typically more periphery-northlane side of the spectrum" honestly this is probably why im not bothered lol



but yea i think part of it too is theres so many subgenres that i wouldnt even really think to lump those 4 albums together bar one and p1. maybe its because progcore specifically is my favorite take on that sound lol but at this point i can almost always tell the difference between that and plain ol dj0nt and think of them separately

NudeTayne
March 28th 2023


2435 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

wish Josh Travis would clean up his act and leave Emmure and go back to writing nasty Djent. I've known many people that agree that TTDTE was a really underrated pioneer to heavy "djent."

MoM
March 28th 2023


5994 Comments


TTDTE dunk so hard, there’s half an Oreo at the bottom of the glass



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