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theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

If your heart was in it, I'd stay a minute

I'm dying to be taken apart


cylinder
September 21st 2017


4407 Comments


Well that's fuckin cool! Hadn't heard that yet, thanks. Funny too that Guilty Party ended up being one of the undeniables on here

Also that line from Born to Beg has become a top 10 National lyric for me, good choice

Point1
September 21st 2017


863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I really like Empire Line but the ending is such an unlistenable mess. When Bryan is doing the Bryan-y 16th note drumming with snares and Matt's singing the pre-chorus the whole thing is just overwhelming.

DoofusWainwright
September 21st 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Album is so 5'y

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

That section of Empire Line is one of my favorite moments on the album :-/

Ryus
September 21st 2017


37885 Comments


havent listened to this since it came out, kinda forgot about it actually :[[[

DoofusWainwright
September 21st 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Look at Ryus pretending there are better albums to listen to than this and stuff : (

Clumseee
September 21st 2017


1848 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Cut tracks 3-7 and you got a fantastic record.

DoofusWainwright
September 21st 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

3-5 is one of the best stretches smh

Rowan5215
Emeritus
September 21st 2017


48447 Comments

Album Rating: 3.3

"Sounds like you're judging it for what it isn't rather than what it is which is unfair."



this is literally how all criticism of anything works

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

That's literally not true Rowan, you criticize something for what it is because you think that what it is doesn't work well. The base point of the criticism in that case would be that the electronic drums aren't well executed but instead of saying that he said it's bad that they used electronics instead of live drums, which isn't inherently in itself a bad thing.

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

You have to start by criticizing something for what it is before you can posit that something else would be better.

Rowan5215
Emeritus
September 21st 2017


48447 Comments

Album Rating: 3.3

except criticism is based on you comparing it to something else which has done the thing better, we literally need a frame of reference by which to critique anything. so all criticism involves comparing the subject to something else which it is not

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

That sounds like a circular argument to me, you have to know something else that does something well or poorly before you can judge something else as being done well or poorly? Not all criticism has to be comparative, I can think something is bad without considering how it could be better.

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I mean sure all good and bad is relative to some extent but you don't necessarily have to judge something as good or bad because it isn't bad or good, respectively.

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

This is getting strangely specific but for example I think dill has an awful flavor and I can think that without thinking of how it could be made to taste better.

DoofusWainwright
September 21st 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Boney really hates dill 😳

theBoneyKing
September 21st 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Yeah lol that was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of things that I simply detest without having a reason.

And obviously food and music aren't the same but I think the general principle follows.

Dylan620
September 21st 2017


6007 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Not big on dill pickles myself (despite my name) BUT dill pickle flavored Pringles and Lays are mmmmmmmm

Ryus
September 21st 2017


37885 Comments


dill is great



and dill pickles are one of the greatest foods



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