The Ramones are boring? lol, there really is no accounting for taste.
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What about Talking Heads first album? That really treads the line bwtween classic punk and post punk
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It's neither of those genres
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"The Ramones are boring? lol, there really is no accounting for taste."
I mean unless you force yourself to only focus on the vocals it totally is, their guitar riffs are some of the most similar to one another like ever, their bass and drum parts are even less interesting
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This thread is a bad take magnet
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"It's neither of those genres"
What genre is it then ghandhi?
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New Wave + Art Punk?
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Nonsense about The Ramones. They're special. There's a je ne sais quoi about their first three albums, something no other band has captured since. I'm in good company with Albini and Christgau in my love for them.
Talking Heads are more college Art Rock than anything else. They skirt the line on Post-Punk and New Wave though.
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Talking Heads were always a post-punk band to me. The second wave of punk happened even though OG punk was only like two year old. And even the original wave of punk had anomalies that sounded nothing like a standard punk band, such as Television.
And new wave and post-punk are near interchangeable in some instances. I'd say new wave is post punk but focusing on the pop elements and less on the weird/aggressive parts that can exist in punk and post-punk.
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I guess "art punk" works, but I usually think of their new wave stuff to be like glossier/poppier Brian Eno Fear of Music/Remain in Light type stuff
Their first 2 albums are deff more post-punk than new wave
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"And new wave and post-punk are near interchangeable in some instances. I'd say new wave is post punk but focusing on the pop elements and less on the weird/aggressive parts that can exist in punk and post-punk."
This 100%
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Post-punk is older than the Sex pistols yeahhh.
"...original wave of punk had anomalies that sounded nothing like a standard punk band, such as Television."
Which is why they fit under art punk. It's like an "other" category. (similar to art pop)
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I don't see those as interchangeable except with some of the CBGB artists like Talking Heads and Blondie. I would never call Flock of Seagulls post-punk. Post-punk is too broad a category that encapsulates further sub-genres. Post-punk could refer to Wire, The Cure, Talking Heads and Husker Du and those are all massively different sounding groups that just took their queue from the punk movement.
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Yeah, art punk is something I think could be applied across the discog. lmao Whatever it even is. Haha I love when music nerds, including myself, argue the minute specifics of genres and shit like that.
And I agree with Zorg about The Ramones. The first few records just have that fucking attitude.
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"Nonsense about The Ramones. They're special. There's a je ne sais quoi about their first three albums, something no other band has captured since. I'm in good company with Albini and Christgau in my love for them."
lol
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I'm honestly not a fan of terms like "art pop" "art punk" and "art rock"
They make the genres they're describing sound like they're WAY more aristocratic and fancy than they actually are most of the time like it's "high art" and other punk isn't or someshit
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I know bugger all about punk history, so I found this exchange to be somewhat educational. It’s absurd how few of these bands I’ve actually bothered dedicating some listening time to. Weird how I‘ve never ventured that far back.
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Yeah I think you'll have a lot of fun if you do look into it, Demon.
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@Ryus
lmao at your snarky "lol"
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Album Rating: 4.4 | Sound Off
fucking hell I forgot how mega amazing this is
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