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this, court, larks

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"sry div but around here that’s not really a hot take anymore, just a weak take"



yeah, now mine is a hot take: Larks' is not ever top 5 for me



*edit* 14k comments yay

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worst 14 thousandth comment ever?

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An actual hot take: Discipline is quite meh. Like a lot of stuff David Bryne touched at the time, it is just stuff derived from African music without giving credit to the original musicians while acting like it is revolutionary.

i wont tolerate david byrne slander in this thread

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remain in light more like remain in shite

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"worst 14 thousandth comment ever?"



I love you source



"An actual hot take: Discipline is quite meh. Like a lot of stuff David Bryne touched at the time, it is just stuff derived from African music without giving credit to the original musicians while acting like it is revolutionary."



Ah yeah, the cultural appropiation take that Paul Simon received as well. Nonsense imo

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sirlord you should review el jardin de los presentes, you're like the authority on spanish language prog and it doesn't have a review

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"sirlord you should review el jardin de los presentes, you're like the authority on spanish language prog and it doesn't have a review"



My bachelor's degree exam takes all of my time nowadays. There's tons of stuff I want to review but my career won't let me :[ Hopefully I'll have some time after I pass the exam and before I start my professional practice



El Jardin de los Presentes rules and is certainly one of those albums I'd love to review, though I lean more towards Charly Garcia than Spinetta when talking about the two argentinean prog legends.

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‘Also i think the whole new wave deriving stuff from African music and therefore it’s weak is such a boring, boring, virtue signaling take. Yeah maybe it’s a bit more apparent on certain albums but like, cmon, the music rules and most of modern music was derived/stolen from black people anyway. Doesn’t make it ok but does make that take yawn-inducing’ (2).



Now this is a comment. So true.

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Every musician takes influences from tons of different places. It's not like they can credit everyone of them when they make a song

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Right. These criticisms come from...you guessed it...people who have never written music in their lives.



And even if a songwriter were capable of crediting every influence of such piece of art, there is still no moral duty to do so. I know some people's favorite pastime is inventing moral duties and imposing them on our fellow man, but that's not something I'm into.

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I disagree that Discipline appropriated music from African cultures. Yes it was inspired by Bryne's work, but you don't really hear a Chapman Stick used a lot in African music.

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Lol I am not virtue signalling shit, I am African. Also, there's influence and having music trace its roots somewhere (like rock and blues for example) and there's straight up ripping off other artists like Bryne did amd and pushed that shit like his own as a revolutionary. I find it nauseating. Paul Simon didn't appropriate shit with Graceland which happens to be one of my favourite albums OAT. It's clear everywhere where the influence in that music is coming from. The artists responsible for that style of music are obvious from interviews, live shows, etc.



Of course you could get away with the shit Bryne did a lot better in the 80s before the intenet

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Byrne's music has, sometimes, african influences. There are moments in his music that feel like that. But it's not like that's his whole music. Besides maybe his work with Eno, I'd say that the african influences in Byrne's music (like instruments, or tempos) are nothing but a few parts here and there every now and then which, in the case of Byrne's music is actually closer to reggae than to strictly african music (and reggae itself takes influence from african music yeah, but if that's the case, the causality can be traced back for anything that's convenient)



The classic "post-punk" sound, its tempos, guitar strums, etc, don't have african vibes to it at all and it is that classic post-punk sound that Talking Heads and Byrne are known for. Him throwing african influences every now and then is totally different



Plus I haven't seen Byrne ever claim authority over these african moments in his music, maybe over post-punk in general, but not these african aspects. If fans or the media do that, then that's a whole different thing. That's like saying that I, as a latin american, accuse Simon and Garfunkel for the latin american sounds in El Condor Pasa which make most people in the anglophone world think it is a song by them when they listen to it when, in fact, it is one of the most popular old folk songs from latin america

"Lol I am not virtue signalling shit, I am African. Also, there's influence and having music trace its roots somewhere (like rock and blues for example) and there's straight up ripping off other artists like Bryne did amd and pushed that shit like his own as a revolutionary. I find it nauseating. Paul Simon didn't appropriate shit with Graceland which happens to be one of my favourite albums OAT. It's clear everywhere where the influence in that music is coming from. The artists responsible for that style of music are obvious from interviews, live shows, etc."

bro what

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I'm so confused about what's happening. What African artists did Byrne steal music from? If he's just incorporating a style of music into another, who exactly does he need to give credit to? Benkim mentions not giving credit. To who?

It seems David Byrne is a pretty cool guy but David Bryne is a total prick

you cant make fun of byrne he has autism

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I did try to look this up and apparently when Remain in Light dropped he did interviews telling people to listen to Fela Kuti, so on some level he is crediting his influences. Also found out about this artist doing a cover album of Remain in Light but with African music having a much stronger emphasis.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z84rtbVbIEQ