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ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I am not punk but having said that this album isn't punk at all because I would have probably hated it if it was

MillionDead
August 18th 2020


6307 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This album is very punk, whatcha mean? Not only punk, Teenage Riot is definitely more of an alt rock cut. But I always classify Sonic Youth from Confusion is Sex to Dirty as post punk/noise rock.

ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

post punk isn't punk though. It is called "post" punk for a reason and sounds nothing like punk

MillionDead
August 18th 2020


6307 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Sounds nothing like punk? Then why is it a subgenre of punk? Idk how you hear Eliminator Jr or Silver Rocket and say this isn't punk at all.

ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Then why is it a subgenre of punk?"



I don't know. it shouldn't. I hate punk rock and generally love post punk

MillionDead
August 18th 2020


6307 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Siouxsie Sioux came straight out of the punk scene into post punk. Johnny Rotten went from the Sex Pistols to Public Image Ltd. Post-punk is literally derivative/born from the punk scene. Post-punk has so much of the same raw energy, stylistic tenets, and rhythms of standard punk rock, but with different structures and a greater predisposition for auxiliary instruments. Punk, noise rock, post-punk, hardcore punk, no-wave, goth, post-hardcore, etc. That's all punk rock.



ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That's cool and all. I still hate Punk Rock.

MillionDead
August 18th 2020


6307 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Well, that's a bad take. Punk is so diverse, I feel like there's punk out there for everyone. And evidently you don't hate punk rock because you just said you love post-punk? lol But this is such a digression. My only point was to imply that I think Silver Rocket is an awesome song.

ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Exactly I do love post punk because sonically it doesn't sound anything like what it "evolved" from, thankfully.

ArsMoriendi
August 18th 2020


42363 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Punk is often good as long as it isn't pop punk or melodic hardcore or some other whiny BS punk

ArsMoriendi
August 18th 2020


42363 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

@Reefa: what about classic punk stuff like Patti Smith?

GhandhiLion
August 18th 2020


17793 Comments


Good pop punk exists

ArsMoriendi
August 18th 2020


42363 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Good pop punk exists"



If you're talking about The Descendants, then I disagree

ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I haven't done a deep dive into Patti Smith yet. Will have to listen to more of her

MillionDead
August 18th 2020


6307 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

^ That's what I mean. Even regular punk has pianos and shit in it. There's so much variety in even the main genre. I dare a motherfucker to listen to "Rattus Norvegicus" or "No More Heroes" by The Stranglers and tell me that's not good or good but somehow not punk rock.



And saying that post-punk sounds nothing like punk only indicates a lack of familiarity with all the ways punk can sound. Reef, I think you'd like The Stranglers. And how do you not like Iggy Pop and The Stooges? The Clash? Ramones??

Lord(e)Po)))ts
August 18th 2020


70256 Comments


What kind of beta boy hasn't done a deep dive on Patti Smith wow

ArsMoriendi
August 18th 2020


42363 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The Ramones are mad boring and The Clash are okay, but not my thing



Iggy Pop is cool

ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

have you found love yet pots?

ReefaJones
August 18th 2020


4066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'll stay by my opinion: Post Punk sounds nothing like Punk and I base that on the fact that I hate almost all pure punk rock that I heard and love a lot of post punk.

MillionDead
August 18th 2020


6307 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I almost wanna say you don't know what punk sounds like though. The fact that post-punk and punk occupy completely different realms in your brain instead of being in the same nuclear family sort of baffles me.



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