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Yeah, it's obviously not like Agalloch were trying to clone Ulver. In an interview, they specifically said that their main three influences when they were writing Pale Folklore were Katatonia, Ulver, and Fields of the Nephilim.

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Nah deathschool, Agalloch never really sounded that much like Ulver tbh. The similarities are there, but the two bands undoubtedly have very different sounds. Agalloch completely reinvents their sound on each record though, so its kind of hard to gauge.

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@MistaCrave not saying they are copying them, but their influence is too apparent. Don't you think that It is ok to be harsh on juniors and exaggerate about their influences a bit?

Fair enough, but that's the first connection I made. That might change as I listen to more from both bands.

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Haha, yeah, I guess so. People are always just way too quick to accuse a new band of stealing another, much more well-renowned band's sound. Not saying that Agalloch are a new band, but they're newer than Ulver, if that counts for anything.

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somebody has to start it first, so the followers can do better or reform into something else, thats how I see it.



Tony Iommi should sue every metal band in the world and sit on a throne of cash, so we can end "who's stealing whose" debate for good

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Haha, for real dude. I agree with you for sure. It's funny, the main guitarist of Agalloch actually did a lecture discussing his personal take on the evolution of metal and how such radical departures from the exceptionally linear progression of metal, such as Athiest's "Unquestionable Presence," came to be. You should check it out, it's on YouTube.

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when John Haughm first heard Ulver, he immediately formed a band So he can meet Garm one day.

That's the real story they never told you. Someone like me, miles away, can tell you that. Its worth mentioning that Agalloch was formed same year Ulver released Bergtatt.

"Agalloch completely reinvents their sound on each record though, so its kind of hard to gauge."

I definitely wouldn't got that far. They certainly don't reinvent themselves to the extent that Ulver do with each album, which although you weren't comparing them in that regard does seem relevant in a discussion about the two bands. Agalloch have never completely distanced themselves from the influence of Begtatt-era Ulver.

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@Jamie I don't know man, I hear zero Ulver influence in Ashes Against the Grain.

It still has elements akin to Ulver's early sound, such as the dark folk influences in Our Fortress Is Burning.

Ya Agalloch had to have some influence from bergtatt sound.

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I personally don't hear it, but each to their own I guess. All I know for certain is that Agalloch is the most unique and one-of-a-kind band I've ever heard.

"All I know for certain is that Agalloch is the most unique and one-of-a-kind band I've ever heard."

That's quite surprising.

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I'm not sure, But it seems Atmospheric pagan folk is the trend for Black Metal these days.

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i love agalloch, but they're as influenced as you can get. basically the band's sound is bergtatt at it's foundation. they slowly formulated their own sound, yes, but subsequently got more mediocre as they strayed awayfrom what made them so great.



the production on this album is nuts, its treble land

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I hear so much of Track one of Bergtatt in I Am The Wooden Doors but still a brilliant song and band. The influence is definitely apparent.

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Never really made that comparison Mongi, but now that I think about it you're absolutely spot on with that one.

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like yeah this genre is the trend of that other genre



whatlol?

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Anyone who thinks this has no bass, listen to the opening of Wolf and Hatred. When the rhythm sections comes in it's huge.