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That grouping of artists makes no sense.



Adam/anyone else, you are perfectly free to not like something, just no need to sound ridiculous and call it white person rap

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idk like what do any of those rappers have to say? just some soft niggas

there are plenty of sociological reasons why calling something "white person rap" is problematic, but the concept of "white people rap" isn't a fantasy. the artists sam listed are better examples than the ones i thought up, but saying something "sounds white" still calls up a specific sound, and it's one i don't always dig. POS is pretty great though

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i'm just confused why a dark time sunshine record is setting this off. go argue on an atmosphere thread or something

with this argument regarding newer "cloud" rap and the more progressive bent of groups like this, I fall into a never winning middle ground. I like the more almost shoegazy cloud beats more because hip hop is my chill out music, but the rapping on a lot of that stuff is just a lazy drawl that I don't really appreciate. While I love the rapping on this kind of hip-hop but the beats don't particularly do anything for me.

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really? i think the beats on an album like this far exceeds the rapping

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furthermore-- i really like "cloud rap" when it's done well but i think dts stuff shares a lot of similarities.. ozzborn's flow is really stream of consciousness and tracks like "run" have those chill, hazy beats you're referencing



what i'm trying to say here is i'm just surprised this group is considered to be closely related to el-p and company. i always found it tough to put them in a box

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I really don't get why people are asserting that this is 'white person rap'. Some people are noting that this 'sounds white' and that it has a 'specific sound,' but they fail to explain that sound and how DTS fall into this category. What is it? Is it white people emceeing?

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only logic i could see is that not as many black people go online looking for underground artists and therefore more white people are listening to these artists? i mean, it'd be pretty dumb making music for only one demographic if you're interested in making any kind cash

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Lol that's ridiculous

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saw him open for Aesop, really good stuff

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Yes pns split was great. These kind of beats def share more with clams than they do elp

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dts teases too much. i love their outro beats that come up out of nowhere but then they just end too quickly. overlordian ending in particular is great

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Check out Void Pedal or Crushcon 7. Both on Fieldwerk (Zavala's old label I think?).

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Vinyl should be arriving any day now. Can't wait.

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i'm thinking if i should get channel orange or not.

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I'm gonna get it, it's one of my favourites of the year.

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"I really don't get why people are asserting that this is 'white person rap'..."



As I said a few pages ago I think it is unhealthy to categorise music in this way, but I think it can be better defined as rap which tends towards more white middle class sensibilities (not necessarily on purpose) through more verbose, escapist lyrics and certainly through production which is significantly influenced by Indie/electro.



'White person rap' is not really a useful term at all, it's clumsy and to be honest quite backward, but the differences between rap like this and more traditional hip-hop are obvious and do have implications which may not appeal to some people. It's a valid discussion but 'white person rap' is a problematic (and patently false) way of framing it.

The way you keep referring to this band as "DTS" makes me think of Design The Skyline time and time again lol.

du mont explained it perfectly