lol I see metalheads praise metal (in comparison to other genres) for the musicianship and technicality. I rarely see claims of it being the most creative. Are you talking about the fans or journalists?

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@darius Not necessarily. Altough it might depend on what you mean by "new". I don't try to actively find online spaces occupied by metal elitists constantly worshipping the genre for its boundless musical exploration. Nevertheless, even if you've been part of metal circles for a long time, I'm not sure you could make the statements you make.

@Ghandhi I was referring to this comment specifically: "Here's a little red pill for you. 99% of metal bands use generic riffs." I mean, that's a little excessive in my mind. Also, what do you mean by 'a generic riff'?. Because that term can mean different things within different genres and different contexts.

"I mean, that's a little excessive in my mind."
Is it though? My definition of generic would be riffs that are commonplace in the genre. They are often one of the characteristics that signals that a metal song belongs to a specific metal microgenre in the first place.

I'm not sure if that is what dba's definition is though.

@"im talking about morons on forums and shit"
Fair. I browsed a few metal forums in the past and rarely saw that.

why do metal folks enjoy shitting on each other so much

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"I do, and all attempts to call any music average are invalid. "



Congrats on being THAT person. You can leave me alone now.

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Oh, well I've not been part of this forum for a very long time, but I haven't had such experiences that often.

@Ghandhi I mean, sure some metal can be (highly) complex, sonically or conceptually, but some of it is also highly, and intentionally so, primitive and minimalistic (just look at funeral doom). In my experiences, it is mostly pop and sometimes rock music which is claimed to be comparably simplistic to some metal. I haven't yet see any metalhead boldly assert his favourite genre's superiority over classical music or jazz. Maybe you have actually had that experience?

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@daruis Comming in hot with the sweeping generalisations today.

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Anyways currently dling this. Havent really jammed many DM albums that were released recently so this will be a refreshing go.

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@Alexis I hope it, at least somewhat, lives up to the hype being propagated here.

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@Darius It's still a sweeping generalisation, albeit with a slighly more polite tone.

"but some of it is also highly, and intentionally so, primitive and minimalistic (just look at funeral doom)."

This is true but that's a very niche microgenre. I'd say the trends of metal in the past two decades have been towards technicality. Prog metal had a huge boom in popularity.

"In my experiences, it is mostly pop and sometimes rock music which is claimed to be comparably simplistic to some metal. "

For sure, especially pop music.

"I haven't yet see any metalhead boldly assert his favourite genre's superiority over classical music or jazz. "

If you mean technicality and musicianship, I have seen people argue for that. Though to be fair, there is a lot of modern metal more complex than music from the classical period. Likely due to the increase in the number of metal bands that are influenced by prog and jazz.

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I do like everything ive heard by Ulcerate so I doubt thisll be something I hate. And all the descriptions sound great.

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@Ghandhi That is absolutely true, not just for progressive metal, but also for death metal, black metal and even metalcore perhaps. However, sludge metal, doom metal in general, post metal (to a lesser extent) and atmospheric black metal (also to a lesser extent) remain more minimalistic.

Moreover, the style has never been so grounded in theory as jazz or classical music and still doesn't really have what rock music has, with avant-garde progressive rock (RIO, Zeuhl etc.), art rock, krautrock etc. Which is also to be expected perhaps, given it's the youngest of those genres.

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you guys are silly pantses

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@Ghandi Yes, pop-music takes the blunt of the assault. On the other hand, I've actually seen metalheads have positive reactions to metal bands incorporating elements from jazz or classical music or math-rock for example. There actually seems to be, perhaps, some deference towards those, often, less commercialized genres of music.

Edit: That is a shame, especially considering the importance of classical music and jazz in influencing metal's most technically challenging outfits, even if they adopt those genres within their own metallic contexts. Besides, classical music's often larger ensembles still provide a lot more options for instrumental layering than the general metal set-up does, even if the individual parts played by each instrument are less demanding to perform.

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idk the most popular Sludge bands seem to be the ones like Mastodon, Intronaut, Baroness, and others who have a bit of a Prog edge to them. I guess theres a very good amount of bands who hearken back over to Down and Eyehategod, seems with Sludge that its a bit more evenly dispersed with Prog and minimal bands. Maybe I just am behind because I only just recently got back onto the Sludge Metal boat after losing interest for a while.

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Well, the blackened sludge outfits like Rorcal, Inter Arma, Thou or Cobalt are fairly minimalistic for the most part, although conceptually they're perhaps more ambitious and their music does contain some moments which sound more demanding to perform. But yeah, Mastodon and Intronaut especially have some quite proggy material.

Yuh where is the love [2]

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there

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all music is derivative to an extent, metal is no more guilty than any other style