Kacey Musgraves Golden Hour
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BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Westerners abandoned their culture for a kek style of living, so pretty much nobody. Daoko highly respects her Japanese roots and she's a nihilist rather than a consumerist.



"Only insufficient things

I can see only insufficient things

Everything except me

Why does it all seem to sparkle?

Shouldn't care

Come on baby, tear up

This selfish reality

Kiss your mirror and splash into the sea"

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


64287 Comments


salient. who would you say is the asian anti-daoko?

BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Wednesday Campanella lol... she's a sellout faux hipster neo-liberal who jumps on any irrelevant new trend to stay relevant.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


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i googled the lyrics of my fave Campanella song to try and say something contrarian, but it turned out to be a tribute to Roman Holiday so maybe you're onto something there
who is more traditional between daoko and kayoko yoshizawa?

parksungjoon
November 8th 2020


47227 Comments


Westerners abandoned their culture for a kek style of living

BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Kayoko Yoshizawa is awesome and is more traditional than Daoko when talking purely about her aesthetics rather than her message. She will successfully revive the 90s Japan sound and I'm really happy about her presence on the scene. Her role in the industry is akin of a far less quirky Shiina Ringo, lyrics-wise too. Daoko on the other hand is set out to inject ethnic traditionalism into the modern westernized Japan, think... Masaaki Yuasa but in music. Unfortunately, she's inconsistent as hell.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


64287 Comments


okay, but who will revive the 90s Japan sound more between Kayoko and Aimyon, and who reflects Shiina Ringo's original industry more between Kayoko, Seiko Oomori and Mariko Goto?

BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Never heard of Aimyon?



And on the 2nd question I think it's sadly none of them, Shiina Ringo left a mark on the Japanese music industry that was far too unique to be replicated. An attempt from other artists to continue her legacy is simply re-lightening her legacy instead of theirs, and they act merely like vessels for a rare flower that already withered.



That's why I'm so unimpressed by them apart from Kayoko, whom I feel has an energy similar to Ringo and 90s J-rock, but new and unique.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


64287 Comments


"An attempt from other artists to continue her legacy is simply re-lightening her legacy instead of theirs"
can't completely agree with this because there's a mild double-standard over how Ringo's legacy originally had its own parallels with Jun Togawa's (which are equally applicable to Seiko + Mariko tbh, which maybe accounts for part of your lack of impression idk)

BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I keep hearing that but I don't feel ANY Togawa in Ringo, ever. : (



Apart maybe from the idea of being a wild and innovative pop artist, but that doesn't immediately translates for me into direct sound influence.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


64287 Comments


We're talking industry roles here, not sound

BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I see.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


64287 Comments


perhaps

BaselineOOO
November 8th 2020


2846 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Do you really think artists like Seiko and Mariko can fill her role in the industry? Shiina Ringo reached mainstream status quite quickly into her career, while these new artists seem to ride some kind of cult status wave and quite rarely intersect with Ringo's level of fame. I wish them the best but I don't think they're up to the task, that's all. Like they're trying to mirror Ringo, but the mirror is now too dusty. Until a legendary new artist appears and creates a screen that streams her own image instead of reflecting Shiina's, they'll just be her reflections.



I don't hear Togawa in Ringo (that's why they're so distinct and HUGE for me), but I hear lots of Ringo in Seiko and Mariko, that's my point. :P

JohnnyoftheWell
November 8th 2020


64287 Comments


I think Seiko and Mariko have already established their respective places as alt-idol affiliates and in punk/EDM crossover pop so firmly that they don't really need Ringo-level mainstream exposure to develop their careers to fruition (and given what that fame ultimately did to Ringo, I think that's a good thing). If we're specifically talking about mainstream revolutionaries, then you're realistically gonna be hard-pressed to find anyone more up to the task than Seiko tbh. Vintage Ringo is ofc peak, but she was too much of a control freak about her own work to command the same level of chaotic energy

IsildursBane44
November 9th 2020


764 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Get a room already.. lol

Tundra
November 9th 2020


10756 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yall clearly like REOL and anyone who likes REOL is confirmed weeb trash

nol
November 27th 2020


12280 Comments


why don’t you giddee up, giddee up, ho

Some good songs on this.

nol
November 27th 2020


12280 Comments


Songwriting is p nice. Just good pop sensibilities.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 27th 2020


64287 Comments


Props to Tundra for dropping the one Jpop artist he's heard of after based discourse about the powers that be wow this thread has been saved



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