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Pikazilla
January 28th 2020


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Tool struggling to remain relevant

dedex
Emeritus
January 28th 2020


13007 Comments

Album Rating: 2.6 | Sound Off

what was the worst one Pika?

Pikazilla
January 28th 2020


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

F.A.Q.Q. by Liturgy

dedex
Emeritus
January 28th 2020


13007 Comments

Album Rating: 2.6 | Sound Off

oooooof, idk i think it's their most accomplished work



tbh i thought you were gonna say Lana Del Rey or stg like that

qwenta
January 28th 2020


835 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"F.A.Q.Q. by Liturgy" yeah, you are right on this one. The Ark Work was 2015s top 10 (maybe top5) for me and faqq is a big letdown.



Tool are so relevant and so classic at the same time... Best band since Aenima.

Egarran
January 28th 2020


36938 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah people only pretend to hate this bc memes

GhandhiLion
January 28th 2020


17793 Comments


True, but this album is boring. Clearly the most uninspired Tool album.

SitarHero
January 28th 2020


14826 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

RE: Storm Corrosion lyrics



Holy shit. Steven Wilson gets a bad rap for some of his lyrics but that's some awful 8th grade poetry. I'm somehow angry at you for bringing this to my attention Eg.

Mythodea
January 28th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

okay, maybe it's because I'm biased towards this song, but can someone pinpoint what exactly is awful? Not whining here, honest question for discussion.

Egarran
January 28th 2020


36938 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

>I'm somehow angry at you for bringing this to my attention Eg.



Not sorry, I knew exactly where this was going.

You see, there is a commonality to people who don't get Tool's lyrics.



But I'm glad we agree on Storm Corrosion.

SitarHero
January 28th 2020


14826 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"can someone pinpoint what exactly is awful?"

Okay, in as concise a manner as I can manage, here's what bothers me about it.





"Someone is calling her shorewards / Much likes horses / Raising dogs will sing to me"



Let's just take these lines. As a storytelling/idea-communcating device none of that is in any way coherent. Are the horses calling her? Is she being called like horses get called? Do horses get called? Using horses in this simile seems a terrible choice which is confirmed by the following line. So, the horses are the ones calling to her like "raising dogs"? But horses most definitely aren't known for their "singing" (I read "howling") the way dogs are, so it answers nothing about the mechanics of who's being called or why. Then this frame is abruptly dropped.



So since clearly none of the lyrics are telling a story or communicating ideas in any way. Perhaps they're just nonsensical lyrics meant to evoke weird imagery like the lyrics to "Black Hole Sun". But this runs into problems too because we're abruptly skipping from images of the shore (and sea) to images of horses (okay maybe they're seahorses?) to howling dogs (maybe they're sad seahorses?). Great, now I'm thinking about sad seahorses, and I know that Wilson likes writing lyrics where everyone is sad, but making seahorses sad is just not kosher.

Mythodea
January 28th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Okay, you make some valid points. I do believe though,that the value of lyrics is different in different meanings. Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree's lyrics aside, Storm Corrosion is an album revolving around atmosphere, rather than cohesiveness. Counting out the first song of the album, Drag Ropes, there's little storytelling in the lyrics, or, in that manner, the way the music progresses. Especially in the case of the t/t, where the piece is itself changes direction midways. So I guess a consistent, realistic imagery or a cohesive story wouldn't fit the character of neither the song nor the album.



I tried to provide some examples of well-written lyrics in their context, from repetitive, to abstract, to surreal, to realistic and cohesive. Thanks for your comment though, as I was really struggling with what angered so many people about Wilson's lyrics (though I get the hatred for some of his lines - *cough*X-Box*cough*)

Valkoor952
January 28th 2020


4906 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Any artist who can make a song about the anal cavity being 4 degrees warmer sound as badass as 4 degrees is, is okay in my book.

SitarHero
January 29th 2020


14826 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"I do believe though,that the value of lyrics is different in different meanings. Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree's lyrics aside, Storm Corrosion is an album revolving around atmosphere, rather than cohesiveness."

I completely agree. Truth be told, I'm not a lyrics person and generally see lyrics as a hook to hang a melody on so I am completely okay with non-sequitur nonsense if it serves the feel and atmosphere of the song (see also: Black Hole Sun). In that sense I actually really do enjoy some of Wilson's lyrics, at least from songs that I've bothered learning and am more than willing to give him a pass on a lot of the bad ones that he obviously throws in as an afterthought.

Devoid of context the lyrics to Storm Corrosion come of as quite obviously opaque and nonsensical in the way that I used to wrote poetry assignments in 8th grade english lit. That's why I'm most annoyed at Eg, because I was perfectly content to enjoy the song without knowing what the words were but now that I've been confronted with the lyrics I'm going to have to work hard to ignore them the next time I listen to the song. :/

Mythodea
January 29th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

oh, yeah, I think now the song is ruined for all of us

Egarran
January 29th 2020


36938 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Thanks for playing, though.



Not sure why Sitar is so offended, it was very predictable.

Mythodea
January 29th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

It's the ''I know I shouldn't like it, just don't rub it in my face''

Wildcardbitchesss
January 29th 2020


21824 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I don’t usually look up lyrics since I like to interpret them the way I hear it, so it took me an embarrassingly long time to pick up on the “shit blood and cum on my hands” line in Prison Sex.

It took me blasting it through the speakers at work to figure out how fucked that song is.

Mythodea
January 29th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I see though, that, if on my side I am fixed and partial on some of Maynard's lyrics, most counter-arguments revolve around Prison Sex, while I think he's written more dynamic and emotional lyrics (i.e. Reflection, Wings for Marie Pt.II)

DreamerSchemer
January 30th 2020


31 Comments


Incredible album

Best American musical group of all time.



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