There Will Be Fireworks The Dark, Dark Bright
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Sowing
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December 27th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

I got into a heated Swans debate at work the other night.



Gira doesn't know the boundaries he's penetrated.



edit: fuck you too, gyro ; )

deathschool
December 27th 2014


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Well yeah, Gyro. It's Brand New

Jots
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December 27th 2014


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"I got into a heated Swans debate at work the other night. "

- what are the deets

Gyromania
Staff Reviewer
December 27th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.0

haha sorry sowing. i mean at the bottom is one of their best songs but what a mess of an album. and be gone is still one of the worst things i've ever heard

Rowan5215
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December 27th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.1

Now thread's going into Brand New territory it seems

Musically Daisy in fine but lyrically god it's awful

Gyromania
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December 27th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.0

most conversations on sputnik are tangential. doesn't bother me tbh

Sowing
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December 27th 2014


45757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Basically he was insinuating that Swans never should have re-started because The Seer and To Be

Kind
are both shit. I defended The Seer as being one of my favorite albums of all time and

objectively one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the last 5 years or so. He also tried telling me

that if any of them were worthwhile, it's My Father Will Guide Me... and I didn't agree even though I

liked that record too.

deathschool
December 27th 2014


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I don't hate Brand New btw. Haven't heard Daisy. I like the fox though.

deathschool
December 27th 2014


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The Devil and God Are Seering Inside the Dark, Dark Bright

Rowan5215
Emeritus
December 27th 2014


48526 Comments

Album Rating: 4.1

Goddamn Swans are NOT worth getting into arguments over lol

I'm happy they re-started only because My Father is their only album I like

Rowan5215
Emeritus
December 27th 2014


48526 Comments

Album Rating: 4.1

Jac's comment holy fuck saving that one

Sowing
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December 27th 2014


45757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

haha sorry sowing. i mean at the bottom is one of their best songs but what a mess of an album. and be gone is still one of the worst things i've ever heard



That's the thing about Daisy - it's kind of intentionally screwed up. I forget where, but there's even a thing about Jesse Lacey saying that some of the tracks were purposely distorted beyond sensibility to instill an atmosphere of chaos and in the case of Be Gone and In a Jar, embed messages. If you look up the lyrics to Be Gone, they're freaky as shit. And playing In a Jar backwards reveals some pretty weird biblical metaphors.

deathschool
December 27th 2014


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I was overshadowed by his giant pony brain. Why do I even try?

Jots
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December 27th 2014


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"if any of them were worthwhile, it's My Father Will Guide Me..."
haha. hey I like the new Swans albums fine, I just think a lot of their older stuff (which nobody cared about at the time of release, hallelujah internet though) was better. that being said, My Father Will Guide Me is mehhhh

Rowan5215
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December 27th 2014


48526 Comments

Album Rating: 4.1

No-one should even bother commenting once Jac enters a thread tbh

Sowing
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December 27th 2014


45757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah My Father Will Guide Me is like a 3.5 (even though I believe I rated it a 4.5 back in the day, oh silly contributor version of Sowing), TBK is a 3.7, and The Seer is a 5. To me, anyway.

deathschool
December 27th 2014


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Soundtracks > TBK > Seer = White Light

Ugh. What am I doing?

Sowing
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December 27th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

I haven't rated any of their old albums yet, but I think Soundtracks for the Blind is my favorite out of those. Based on like 1 listen each, though.

Rowan5215
Emeritus
December 27th 2014


48526 Comments

Album Rating: 4.1

Soundtracks was alright it's just a shame how Gira thinks he actually has the ability to make albums that are two fucking hours long

Jots
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December 27th 2014


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SFTB is my fav Swans I think. I also like Children of God, Filth, Holy Money, Cop... :S



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