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Wildcardbitchesss
June 6th 2022


19887 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That’s purely conjecture. Sergio was their bassist almost as long as Chi was. He got a raw fucking deal.

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
June 6th 2022


19072 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah sergio got fucked. It'd be one thing if all he did was play bass and that's it but the dude seemed to be writing a lot of material as well. Gore in particular was exclusively written by Chino/Sergio per Stephen.



And like, not to tell people how to grieve but like... Chi passed almost 10 years ago now, and the coma started like 15 years ago iirc. Don't feel like that excuse should pass the smell test at this point in time. It's purely money related as Sergio said himself basically. Now whether that's up to the band themselves or their management is up for discussion but I have a hard time believing Sergio is shafted the way he was if the Chino and co. actually wanted to do right by him

FadedSun
June 6th 2022


3199 Comments


It's probably a sour thing to point out, but Deftones skyrocketed to even more popularity after Chi's passing, and with the addition of Sergio as their bass player. People place albums like Diamond Eyes, KNY and Ohms as some of Deftones best work over their entire career.

Wildcardbitchesss
June 6th 2022


19887 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

hell, I do. White Pony is better than Diamond Eyes but Koi and Ohms are their best albums imo

EphemeralEternity
June 6th 2022


4937 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

If people still treated me as a stand in after 15 years I’d be indignant as well



And as far as Eros goes I can understand them stopping and withholding the release whilst chi was comatose and focusing on another project but now that he’s passed what good is it to keep his final project in the dark? Wouldn’t it seem right to honour his legacy by releasing something he had poured his passion into?

I could understand if his parts were incomplete because perhaps he wouldn’t have wanted them released in that stage but apparently the instrumentation for the album was complete and half the vocal tracks were.



Smile is my favourite deftones track and I feel like it would be a disservice to the fans if they never released at least the completed half





hobblepot
June 6th 2022


3001 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I'm probably making excuses up because I'm sick of artists I like turning out to be complete pieces of shit

Wildcardbitchesss
June 6th 2022


19887 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Brand New and Deftones are the only ones for me.



It sucks, I always knew Stef was a dipshit but Chino seemed like a really chill dude. That shit he said on mixr or whatever the fuck its called has made me really lose a lot of respect for him.



Abe and Frank still seem cool but man, the last year for this band has just been such a bummer

onionbubs
June 6th 2022


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i have seen it far too often unfortunately (tried listing em out but it j depressed me) and now these guys too. a lesser evil than say like brand new sure but this year has put a really bad taste in my mouth regarding this band

EphemeralEternity
June 6th 2022


4937 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

At least they’re not sexual predators posing as endearing pop punk guys or neo nazis … as far as I’m aware… but it’s hard to look at their music quite the same way when you know it’s played by a paranoid cretin and sung by an overgrown manchild loser

Wildcardbitchesss
June 6th 2022


19887 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

[2] I didn’t mean to equate them with Brand New or Burzum or something. I’ll still listen to and love the music, but this is all just really shitty.

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
June 6th 2022


19072 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

despite there being artists who have done far far far worse things, the whole sergio situation really has turned me off from them. yeah every artist wants to make money at the end of the day but all this talk about "management" and "contracts" from both sides makes them feel more like a corporate entity than a band.



shit even steph's bullshit didn't bother me all that much... but sitting out a tour because you're anti-vax after thousands a fans pay hundreds of dolllars to see YOU perform???? making it hard to be a fan these days

Wildcardbitchesss
June 6th 2022


19887 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I would straight up want a refund.



I was waiting to see what would happen once they toured out of the states. Stef is a fuckin douchebag, and honestly while I’m at it, a really fucking mediocre guitarist.



Give me a day and I could teach someone any Deftones song

Valkoor952
June 6th 2022


4896 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"I was waiting to see what would happen once they toured out of the states. Stef is a fuckin douchebag, and honestly while I’m at it, a really fucking mediocre guitarist.



Give me a day and I could teach someone any Deftones song"



I mean you could teach someone yeah, but coming up with them is a whole different ballgame. He has written many iconic riffs for the band that may be simple, but are just cool as fuck.

Wildcardbitchesss
June 6th 2022


19887 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Oh for sure. The talent is there but let’s not act like he’s some genius. He’s a fucking moron that just happens to be able to come up with some good riffs.

JohnnyoftheWell
June 6th 2022


64287 Comments


DON'T CALL ME

EphemeralEternity
June 7th 2022


4937 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I know it isn’t right but I actually don’t mind as much if a dickhead make abrasive music because it’s like alright well they’re not even trying to hide their character but how can someone who writes something as lovely as xerces or entombed be a prick

Sabrutin
June 7th 2022


9843 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

People change(?)

Egarran
June 7th 2022


36867 Comments


Sometimes, the ability to separate art from the artist feels like a superpower.

hobblepot
June 7th 2022


3001 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Chino is a better guitarist than Steph, Steph is good for chugging but Chino writes more of the softer stuff which is the more interesting aspect of their music. Also from what I've heard Chino is a chill guy, but the band themselves all have such wildly different views on things there's a lot of conflict between them

DDDeftoneDDD
June 7th 2022


23542 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

best art comes out of conflict



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