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Its a general statement about theory basically ruining the emotional side of music and replaces it with some guy trying to look sophisticated using every complicated unique chord known to man.

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the sweeping generalization that writing outside of diatonicism suppresses the emotional side of music is honestly genuinely the worst take ive ever seen out of you and i am never that blunt lmao please expand your horizons



you could just have been like "i only connect with music in major and minor scales" and i wouldnt have bat an eye but cmon lol

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Any scale can work if you're passionate enough, it's just so many things like music theory and "classical training" make it sound like a pissing contest to see who's music is more "sophisticated" and "objectively great"

like that shit's so limiting and is a reason I left before I could get brainwashed by the pretentious classical theory nerd bug. Made me feel like I wasn't allowed to look at music through the lens I do and HAD to go full snob about 50 different writing techniques that may not even go together vibe-wise.

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theory expands your toolkit as a writer tho how is that limiting

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I mean if theory nerds didn't try to tell you any other way than their "let's try so hard to be complicated"/"anything that isn't classically trained is objectively garbage" shit is wrong...

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so you have a problem with a subsect of the culture got it. then say that and not that theory hurts the "emotional" side of music lol esp when many people MOST emotionally connect w music through those sides of theory



sorry the program you went through sucked tho

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I mean I'm sure there's a reason Kurt Cobain and punk artists never went through theory. I subscribe a bit more to that side than the "classical training is god in every way" side.

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i mean the 4th nirvana album was allegedly supposed to sound like automatic for the people so kurt would have eventually sharpened up his toolkit a bit had he stayed around



and i also think youre kinda misconstruing music theory and classical training like music theory encompasses everything

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Maybe. I just really don't like the pretentious culture around theory. The only reason I find myself more drawn to progcore these days isn't anything with the complexity of riffs or anything, I just found myself more drawn to longer, more drawn out builds with uncommon structures instead of everything being vcvcbc lol I just like varied vibes and prog seems to scratch that more.

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"I just found myself more drawn to longer, more drawn out builds with uncommon structures instead of everything being vcvcbc"



an example of music theory!

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I guess it is, lol. I've noticed some artists do it completely unintentionally and I think that's neat tbh

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That interaction just explained a lot lollll

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damn everyone calm down

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Let's just talk about how good Without a Whisper is

"Check Stillworld Johnny"
yes?
"I got Johnny to check stillworld when this first released and he said it was okay"
oh, yes!
"Songwriting...classes? Theory generally gets in the way of the emotions in favor of pretentious postulating about 7th chords or whatever."
that is not what songwriting is (but also ditto every bubs comment on the way theory can inform composition, which is part of what informs songwriting)

DIGS ARE BACK????

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Tbh even still I'm not even sure what's wrong with the writing. Everything here flows into eachother nicely, there's nothing that feels out of place or anything. I guess maybe there's stuff that has a breakdown that could've been replaced with more atmosphere but that's, kind of it. But the breakdowns aren't momentum-killing...something I can't say for a certain other album that got hyped to high hell here.

the writing is homogenous and the band's approach to heaviness is incredibly unimaginative. compare this shit to any band that understands space and structure like, idk, Rolo Tomassi and the difference is light and day. their palette is distinctive and quite impressively realised, but it demands an unpacking that this chugs-per-minute set of agonised cheap thrills falls far short of

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Not wrong

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So in short; the heavy bits are too dull for you and the atmosphere isn't deep enough. I guess I can see that side to a degree. Like this kinda stuff just tugs at me and I like the Rolo Tomassi comparison because they're really damn good too.

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Rolo definitely tools this.